Iran expected to attack Israel soon

I already conceded you won the grammar rodeo. If I wanted to debate semantics without end, I would have gone to that thread instead of this one.

 

Semantics? You brought up contradiction, not me.

You are playing the victim now & accusing me of some semantics technicality. You flat out accused me of being contradictory & when I called you out, you bitched out.

For the record, here is my org post in its entirety.

"I hope our ludicrously bloated military only provides defensive help. I would be surprised if Israel does not use this as an opportunity to smash Iran's military capabilities. I feel for civilians & hope that this leads to a toppling of the Iranian gov."

 

Good Lord, dude. Iran. Israel.

 

Oh, the its so obv tactic. Starting to see how dumbass shit like Vietnam can happen with military "men" like you.

 

No, it’s the get-back-on-topic tactic. I already reframed my critique, since you took such an issue with my wording. Your post was dumb. Our military is not “ludicrously bloated” given its mission. If you want to change the mission, change the foreign policy. And, of course, we need to hit Iran back, only the degree should be under debate.

 

How anyone can think our military is not massively bloated is beyond me. &, I also think it is asinine for the US to attack Iran. The bolded IMO is 1 of the stupidest things I've ever read on too hot. Why? Oh, b/c Israel is our ally.

 

So change the foreign policy so that Israel is not our ally. Otherwise, respond to deter future attacks.

 

Saying we need to hit Iran "back" implies that they hit us first. Maybe there comes a time where we do need to strike Iran, but Israel is a big boy and can fight it's own fights. They've proven that for near 100 years.

 

yeah, I can't do that. So, what are you talking about? What treaty, etc. commits us to defend Israel?

 

As I suggested earlier, Iran’s attack did not have much of an effect. I said, the most we should do was a limited strike against a single military target. Kinetic strikes are not the only way to hit back. I can see where a cyber attack or the like could be appropriate. I just strongly advise we don’t do nothing. That will send a message you don’t necessarily want to send to a realist power like Iran.

 

FYI, TO is not an Israeli site. Most of us are Americans I suppose.

 

the grammar rodeo eh? Well, this was the WHOLE post by you; to which I responded.

"So many contradictions in this post"

Oh, there was so much going on, but I guess I'm some little prig to focus on THE ONLY THING THE POST SAID!!!

So, what other deep insights was I supposed to address? The grammar rodeo was the only game in town, no?

 

So I’ll give you another game then. You assert that our military is “ludicrously bloated.” Be specific. What capabilities does it need less of? What capabilities does it not need at all? What foreign policy objectives are you willing to cut to better match means to ends?

 

I’m not there yet. I can’t tell if Iran’s attack was so ineffective because it was incompetent or deliberately designed to not cause much damage. The second scenario is still possible in my mind. This could have been a face-saving response to the attack on their consulate just so they could say they did something without ratcheting up the escalation. I just don’t know yet.

 

Yeah, gonna get right on it. In fact, I’ll pull my team off all assignments & make em work overtime on this. I’ll PM our detailed report.


clifs: grow up arrogant one

p.s. oh, gentle readers, this is the post that got @uftaipan's specs foggy in the first place. Amazin', but true!!

"I hope our ludicrously bloated military only provides defensive help. I would be surprised if Israel does not use this as an opportunity to smash Iran's military capabilities. I feel for civilians & hope that this leads to a toppling of the Iranian gov."

 

Best direct answer to a direct question I can provide is this:

https://www.state.gov/u-s-security-... bilateral defense,of Forces Agreement (1994).

In sum, our foreign policy toward Israel is a combination of treaties, laws, and executive agreements that amounts to this:

 

Well, that’s okay, I suppose. I’m sure I have a number of deeply held assumptions that I couldn’t back up either. We can leave it there.

 

yep