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Iran expected to attack Israel soon

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by okeechobee, Apr 13, 2024.

  1. okeechobee

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    Apparently the U.S. has been intercepting most of these drones.
     
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  2. Gator40

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    No he was not. He was on a 5 day vacation that was to be through Sunday and returned early to be with the national security team.
     
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  3. Gator40

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    Hey, finally some facts from you. Great job, Biden! He's apart of the US, no? Good job intercepting them, President!
     
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  4. vaxcardinal

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    That’s because we have assets in Iraq to do that
     
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  5. uftaipan

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    How much do you want to go off topic? There are already threads on those, and this has been discussed ad naseum. The point is, dumb advice from the JCS is not the problem, which is what the poster I was addressing seemed to suggest.
     
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  6. Contra

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    It is hard to tell whether or not this can be laid at the feet of Joe Biden. What we know is prior to 10/7 financial assets that were under lock and key due to sanctions were unfrozen by the Biden administration. This allowed the accounting picture to change for Iran, and they launched a massive attack on Israel, which of course costs money. That snowballed into the events of everything that has happened into the Middle East since then.

    So, you could trace this back to bad foreign policy by the Biden administration (or whoever Biden's puppet masters are...probably Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama) who assumed Iran would play nice with more money rather than fund more violence. Gullible Democrats were wrong in their assessments.

    Assuming we ignore the unfreezing of Iranian financial assets as unrelated, it is possible the Biden administration had no other part to play in this. Time will tell.

    It is best to wait for the evidence in these kinds of situations. More information is bound to come out.
     
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  7. channingcrowderhungry

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    Another country attacks another country. "It's Joe Biden's fault!”

    Derp derp derp
     
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  8. uftaipan

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    Speaking for self, I place very little if any direct blame on the Biden Administration for these attacks or the 10/7 attacks that set the current situation in motion. Yes, I think some dumb decisions were made with respect to Iran early on and that the Administration was too slow in reversing its policy on Iran once it was clear that they were playing us false. That’s politics, though. When your entire foreign policy is based on “Do the opposite of what Trump did” you are going to do some correct things, such as rapprochement with treaty allies, as well as some dumb things ones like alienating Saudi Arabia and ignoring Iranian perfidy. The main thing is not what got us to this point but what we do now. And that is 100% up to the President. If I’m him, I’m waiting to see how much damage Iran did with these attacks, and I’ll frame my response proportionately to that. But Iran struck from its territory directly against once one of our allies. We need to hit Iran back directly in response.
     
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  9. citygator

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    What’s the best case scenario here?
     
  10. GratefulGator

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    That this is not the beginning of WWIII.
     
  11. tampajack1

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    You’re the one who went off-topic in an apparent put down of Biden. I don’t care whether we discuss it at all, although I am ignorant as to what advice was given on Ukraine.
     
  12. uftaipan

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    Good question. In my opinion, the best case is that whatever we do next makes Iran stop immediately, and the war goes back to being contained within Israel’s borders except for the occasional strike by or on an Iranian proxy. But of course the “best case” is rarely the most likely case.
     
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  13. okeechobee

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    LOL, Biden's speech tonight was taped and then not delivered. What a clown.
     
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  14. tampajack1

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    Or, Iran might now have nukes.
     
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    Disagree
     
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  16. okeechobee

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    They have ground support from Palestinians is what they have, thanks to Israel's brilliant strategy of wiping out tens of thousands of Palestinians.
     
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    Iran is Hamas... Hamas are terrorists group that kidnapped and murdered dozens of Israelis.
     
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    I hope our ludicrously bloated military only provides defensive help. I would be surprised if Israel does not use this as an opportunity to smash Iran's military capabilities. I feel for civilians & hope that this leads to a toppling of the Iranian gov.
     
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    To be specific, the put down was on Jake Sullivan. I guess one could derive a presidential put down from the fact that Jake Sullivan’s dumb ass hasn’t been summarily fired by now and replaced with a war-time consigliere, but that is what it is. And I’ve talked it to death in other threads.

    With respect to Afghanistan, I’ll let the Congressional testimony speak for itself until more of the counsel becomes declassified.

    On Ukraine, I’ll stand with the few things you can find open source at the moment: even if you don’t intend to intervene, don’t publicly assure Russia you don’t intend to intervene; put enough forces in Eastern Europe that Russia has to deliberately keep strength out of Ukraine; make nice with Saudi Arabia, so we can put maximum pressure on Russia’s oil industry; don’t cede Russia the Black Sea; don’t try to evacuate the Ukrainian government before we have a sense of how things are going; etc. That’s off the top of my head.
     
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  20. okeechobee

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    Smart move would be to pivot efforts in Gaza to efforts in Iran.