Indianapolis Mall Shooter Killed by Good Samaritan

actually I was wrong…he took down the shooter within 15 seconds

 

Fired 10 shots hit the suspect with 8.

 

Are we starting to receive some eyewitness accounts? Do you have a link? The thought that the gunman shot five people, killing three, in :15 is awful.

 

Trying to post a update off FB but it's marked private.
Updates are coming from security footage, coroner and the sheriff.

 

Pretty sure statistics have police with inverse statistics. 20% hits and 80% misses. Firing acurately with adrenaline pumping is not easy. This is based on some criminal justice courses more than two decades ago so my memory may be a little off.

 

That is one change. In the past 20 years or so I’ve noticed tattoos have become much more acceptable.
More divorce too. More children who don’t feel a sense of belonging for one reason or another.
And fewer people attending church.

 

Divorce rates peaked in the 80s and have been declining ever since.

 

The U.S. Divorce Rate Has Hit a 50-Year Low

 

Article is 2020 but still interesting.
Meanwhile, America’s so-called “marriage divide” is only widening. College-educated and economically better off Americans are more likely to marry and stay married, but working-class and poor Americans face more family instability and higher levels of singleness. For Americans in the top third income bracket, 64% are in an intact marriage, meaning they have only married once and are still in their first marriage. In contrast, only 24% of Americans in the lower-third income bracket are in an intact marriage, according to my analysis of the 2018 Census data.

 

Is this a legitimate “good guy with a gun” or justified “stand your ground?”

 

The marriage tax hits work-class and poor Americans a lot harder. We have incentivized not being married for them.

 

Must be because of all the tattoos and not going to church, not the predictable fallout of a capitalist economy with a meagre welfare system

 

Texas is such a backwards-ass pit

 

More juicy goodness of "more guns".

We are so stupid.

 

It’s interesting that suicide rates in some countries with strict gun control are as high or higher than the US. Japan, for example, has a higher rate.

See chart at end of this OECD article:
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Suicide with a gun? Or just suicide in general?

 

But many more countries with stricter gun control laws are lower. This sort of analysis needs to be adjusted for confounders.



The Asian countries suicide rates were surprising to me. I should know this.

Japan - Why does Japan have such a high suicide rate?
South Korea - https://bpr.berkeley.edu/2017/10/31/the-scourge-of-south-korea-stress-and-suicide-in-korean-society/

 

"Adolescents and the elderly, widely considered vulnerable groups in society, are the most at risk for suicide. South Korea has the highest suicide rate in the world for children ages 10-19 and extremely high elderly (60+) suicide rates. For children, most suicides are caused by stress relating to education. Korean children have a school year of 11 months and often spend over 16 hours a day at school and at afterschool programs called hagwons. All this studying is done to get into the top three universities in South Korea, all of which are known for their miniscule acceptance rates. Family prestige and honor are often tied to where children go to university, and many adolescents take their own lives out of that stress. Elderly suicides also occur at an alarmingly high rate – the highest of OECD countries. Many elderly commit suicide due to poverty, and, to a lesser extent, the breakdown of Korea’s traditional family structure. According to the OECD, roughly half of Korea’s elderly population lives in poverty. Many retired South Koreans have no source of income, as the country’s pension system only began in 1988. They may have no one to rely on either; as Korea is becoming more and more economically advanced, more Koreans are abandoning their elderly parents in the countryside and sending them money less frequently. Lonely, poor, and worried about the livelihoods of not only their own but those of their families, many of South Korea’s older people commit suicide so as to not levy a financial burden family members."


I think we have this kind of stress here, too. Academic, financial, and career success are something to strive for. But IMO we put too much emphasis on those things relative to being happy and treating others with respect. Everyone can't be the valedictorian or the CEO, yet people may feel like they're a failure if they're not hyper successful. I watched a video awhile back about some country folks in I think it was Costa Rica, who have very little but seemed more content than most "successful" people I know. I bet most of the people on here have had a thought about selling off and leaving the rat race.

 

Suicide in general. Eliminating guns does not eliminate or even significantly reduce suicides.