Immunity decision out

I wonder if you realize the irony or if you are so buried in your framing that you don't see it. So "the Feds" didn't prosecute (you know, the Biden administration who currently appoints "the Feds") but that just shows how it was all "lawfare" because then a different jurisdiction chose to prosecute him for different crimes (they didn't convict him of federal election charges but rather state charges of falsifying business records to attempt to commit federal election crimes), which just proves that it was the Biden Administration all along.

 

Because, believe or not not, some people actually care about presidents acting lawlessly.

 

White House Counsel gonna get some sweet cash to sit on their ass.

Does this immunity extend to others? So if the President orders something, does the immunity extend to everyone who follows the order, regardless of its legality? So the President can just spy on every American in his official capacity and it’s ok? What does this ruling do to further towards the unitary executive theory?

 

All of those were official acts as president. What official acts as president is Trump facing criminal prosecution for?

 

Im totally shocked 2000 mules guy has adopted another nonsensical buzzword into his lexicon.

 

As always, the overriding judicial philosophy of the American right:

 

President now has immunity from lawfare if they're directing it. Shrug

 

The Great One aka Robert Barnes talks LIVE right now with Alex Jones

 

Trump calls this place a shit hole all the time. Says 9 month old baby's are being murdered, people cant afford to live, crime is utterly rampant. None of which is true though. He should probably go to Cuba, or Haiti, or Russia, or North Korea.

 

Decision could have been broader but Robert Barnes believes Florida, DC and Georgia cases are DOA. IN THE new York case judge must go back and determine if anything Trump did was an official act. July 11 sentencing should be postponed Trumps lawyers will likely argue

 

I admit that I struggle with incomprehensible sentences. I re-read your post several times in good faith to glean the meaning before I posted the reply, but to no avail. Assuming my own limitations, I invited an edit or explanation. No such explanation was offered. Rather, you proceeded with an insinuation that I support, or at least tolerate, genocide by our Presidents. Well played, I guess.

And no, it wasn't my argument that "Presidents get to commit genocide" or that any President doing so is "a good thing." My apologies for not clarifying that my point was the exact opposite of that conclusion. I should have been more clear to express that prior Presidents "did stuff" that may have subjected them to criminal prosecution, but they were not prosecuted. Accordingly, the issue of whether a President is protected by any immunity from criminal prosecution is novel. Expressed differently - whether a President MAY have been subject to prosecution is not novel; it is only now that the Biden DOJ has pursued criminal prosecution is novel. Which is the chicken and which is the egg is still up for debate.

 

So many thrilled with “Democracy” and our system until they aren’t.

 

Say what?!?!?!

You are going to compare ANY of those things, all of which pertain to a genuine government action or policy (however bad, ineffective or illegal it may have been) ..........

........to the criminal Trump enacting a criminal conspiracy to overturn an election?!?!?!


The actions of FDR and Lincoln you cite, for example, may have turned out to be quite negative or even criminal. But those were done with the intent to govern. Or, at the least, to make our nation better or safer. Now compare those with the criminal Trump establishing fake slates of electors, coercing state officials and his VP, and repeatedly lying to the point that it incited an attack on our Capitol.

The excuse-making and apologizing for a CRIMINAL are simply shocking. Good game, America.

 

Which prior Presidents attempted an autogolpe, or continued willfully breaking the law even after leaving office? Which prior President behaves with almost total disdain towards the “legal process”, as Trump does?

Perhaps rather than looking at the “Biden DOJ” for breaking with precedent, you might want to ponder some of these factors as well.

 

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As if CRT, DEI, and "wokism" actually arent practiced and actively promoted by the Left in this country....mere figments of our imagination...as if Trump would have been prosecuted, had he not decided to run again...

Keep 'calling our bluff', we'll keep calling BS on y'all.

And we'll see yall at the polls.

PS--can you say "president Trump"?

...again? Lol!

 

He always had it. Tradition, restraint, respect for the system...prevented its deployment heretofore.

PS--member how Hillary was indicted by Trump's DOJ when he was President last time? Yeah...me either.

 

So many claim to be patriotic. And/or against crime.

Until they fall in love with a convicted felon, criminal, traitor, rapist who accepted help in an election from Russia, and tried to criminally overturn a presidential election.....and then they aren't.

 

Not charging presidents with felonies is tradition? Lol

 

The last few years of supreme court decisions are pretty much the end of the notion of a liberal (small l) democracy in this country. Starting with Citizens United, moving to the series of decisions which have basically made bribery legal if structured correctly (the money was provided after the act, not before!), and now the notion that any official act is presumed legal even if done for purely personal gain (while maintaining the court's ability to define it in the future to meet partisan needs, of course), we now have a system that more closely resembles an oligarchical authoritarian system than a small-l liberal democracy.

All of it because a group of people began to feel like their status as rightful rulers and owners of the country were threatened by social change.

 

This just makes establishment of the coming dictatorship that much easier. Trump will get plenty of input from Putin, who knows all about how it's done.