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Immunity decision out

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, Jul 1, 2024.

  1. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    I did. They ducked the issue that I discussed (exception in Barrett's concurrence). Specifically, they claimed to want a lower court to write it then they would weigh in on it. I suspect strategy in that ruling to create a two-tiered system.

    What "novel crime" are you discussing? It seems like you are addressing the charging of Obstruction of an Official Proceeding, and calling it novel because nobody has ever tried to stop the votes from being counted before (which isn't a novel crime but a novel set of facts based on the President's supporters doing something nobody has ever tried to do before).
     
  2. flgator2

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    Lol, BS by the wackos on the left. Can you point to any post the I claimed Buden stole the election? That would be a no one of other unhinged libbies already tried that
     
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  3. gatorjo

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    I'm old enough to remember when the border was secure under that guy who built a wall that Mexico paid for.
     
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  4. coleg

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    Poster's inconsequential claim that the libbies tried to claim that he said the election was stolen, ignores the fact that he supports/worships the proven felon, sexual abuser, tax evading adulterer that was shut down in courts dozens of times trying to say the election was stolen and STILL with zero evidence states the election was rigged. Thus failing to heed the adage, sleep in the bed you made. LOL
     
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  5. G8trGr8t

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    it is his official duty to protect the country and he determined that djt represented a threat to the country, he officially ordered the removal of a threat to the country. that isn't that far down the slippery slope you are standing on
     
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  6. 92gator

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    Still the case.

    (Well, except for Dems connected to the Clintons and/or Barry).
     
  7. 92gator

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    QFT.

    Good stuff '95.
     
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  8. l_boy

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    At some level I understand and agree with the official/unofficial construct, but I guess I disagree is to the extent the majority relied on it. Basically the majority said, as I understand it, is instructing a cabinet member to carry out a crime is an official act, because conversations with cabinet members are official acts. They also ruled out intent / motivation as a factor, which seems relevant. Obama killing a US citizen for terrorist acts is clearly different than a president killing somebody primarily for self benefit.

    It seems like whether an act is legal is largely or maybe totally ignored if it is deemed “official”, and asserting that an act is official is a pretty low bar.
     
  9. 92gator

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    Then I guess Doh! Biden won't be prosecuted for his abusive lawfare, and we just need to be smarter about who we elect to POTUS.

    NB: Clinton (deployed banned chems on US citizens at Waco), Barry (see Ben Shapiro's book the People vs. Barack Obama), and of course Doh! Biden, deploying the DOJ for political purposes--have ALL proven far more toxic and vicious in their abuse of power than Trump ever did in his first term.

    :ninja3:
     
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  10. rtgator

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    As we all know, those who shout "Fake news!" seldom offer a shred of evidence supporting their bluster. :)
     
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  11. VAg8r1

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    Richard Nixon's ghost is once again looking at Donald Trump with envy. Unlike Trump Nixon never had the advantage of an extremely partisan Congress willing to overlook the law and the facts, a personal television network for which the facts were irrelevant and a SCOTUS willing to provide him with immunity from prosecution for any improper acts committed while in office. Had those conditions existed back in the period from 1972 through 1976, Nixon who have never had worry about the threat of impeachment or prosecution after he left office and would have never had to resign nor would he have ever need the blanket pardon from President Ford.
     
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  12. SLOgator

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    Most Cuban immigrants arrived here before 2007.
    With the possible exception of some Marielitos, they have successfully integrated into American society and share our American values, including adherence to our laws.
    In fact they have helped to rid Florida of the disgusting stain of socialism and liberalism in recent elections and will continue to do so in the future.
     
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  13. rtgator

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    Fixed it. :)
     
  14. gaterzfan

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    Derp, derp …… flush.
     
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  15. BLING

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    So Cubans trying to get here after 2007 are in contrast, unAmerican and unworthy of consideration?

    Explain this strained logic.
     
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  16. GatorJMDZ

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    LOL, uhmm, no. I realize this is an older study, from 2015, but it was the most thorough analysis i could find. You keep wearing your skinny jeans, though.

    "In Miami-Dade County, where 24 percent of the population was born in Cuba, immigrants from the island account for 73 percent of arrests for health care fraud; 72 percent of arrests for cargo theft; 59 percent of arrests for marijuana trafficking; and half the arrests for credit card and insurance fraud."

    Cuban criminals exploit America's good will -- to tune of $2 billion
     
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  17. VAg8r1

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    "They have successfully integrated into American society and share our American values, including adherence to our laws."
    That applies to the overwhelming majority of immigrants regardless of their country of origin not just Cubans. Contrary to what a certain presidential candidate has been stating immigrants are less likely than native born Americans to commit crimes (and that includes undocumented immigrants), they have more of a work ethic than native born Americans and more likely to become entrepreneurs.
     
  18. gatorchamps960608

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    What we are basically seeing here is that this SCOTUS will be the arbiter of any crime alleged towards a president. If it's Trump, nothing will ever qualify for prosecution. If it's a Dem president, everything will.

    It's all part of a slow rolling coup.
     
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  19. gatorchamps960608

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    One other thing about this landmark corrupt ruling is that the founders understood the concept of immunity. They imparted it onto congress in part with the Speech & Debate clause.

    Had they wanted the president to have it, they would have included it in The Constitution.
     
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  20. BLING

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    I heard years ago from a member of law enforcement they were responsible for a huge number of the robocall/spam and gas station skimmimg scams in FL. A lot of those calls used to come from the 305, so it made sense. Not sure if that’s still the case. Those scams might have diversified their origins since they are all over the place now lol. I never let that cloud my judgement on immigration either way. The Cubans I know personally in real life are good and successful people, several doctors.

    The anti-immigrant Cuban-Americans i find to be something else though. It’s like… REALLY!!!?
     
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