Illegal immigration is just another GOP campaign issue

“Illegal immigration is just another GOP campaign issue” …

Yes ? And ?

 

Why is this surprising? Their Ukraine position is entirely based on politics. If Biden truly cared about Ukrainians he would come out as Anti Ukraine, then just approve all the pro-Ukraine funding, etc. that will reflexively come from the Rs. It literally goes no deeper than that intellectually.

 

Can you post an executive summary of this compromise legislation? Seeing it compared to HR2 (with differences highlighted) would be interesting to see. Thanks.

 

The quiet part out loud:
House Republican says he won't accept a border deal because it may help Biden politically

House Republican says he won't accept a border deal because it may help Biden politically

 

So, now that we are playing that one representative speaks for the entire party, remember that when it comes back at you. And don't throw the excuse they all feel this way, he is the only one to be verbal about it.
When some of the whack jobs on left speak, we will be sure to note it is the voice of the democrats. Come on can't we be better than this?

 

Dude, you know that this is EXACTLY the case. There is no compromise with the nut job faction of the Republican Party. As long as they can beat the “border” drum for votes they have no reason to help solve the problem. Don’t be so gullible

 

They did the same thing to Obama ... republicans had a pact to oppose any legislation that Obama could call a success, even if it was something that Republicans broadly supported.

Hopefully democrats can capitalize on this and repeat over and over again that it is republicans holding up boarder and immigration reform bills.

 

Yes, I am gullible, but the left is totally virtues and doesn't do anything for political gain. Who is the gullible one again?

 

That's a fair point but it's more than just what one person said.

Where is some sort of proposal from the more vocal opponents of Biden's immigration policy? If Biden is truly that bad, and this as easy to fix as a lot of Republicans make it seem then where are the fixes? If the only fixes are things that Democrats will never approve in a million years then pass the bill and put them on record as having rejected it. Make them defend specific points. It sure as hell isn't because House Republicans are busy solving other problems since all they seem to be doing is investigating Hunter Biden or social media companies.

Surely, there's something that Republicans want that is possible to get passed in a bi-partisan fashion and then they can save their "dream bills" for the next time they control the House, Senate, and Presidency.

 

I agree 100%. Quit talking about what they want and what they WOULD do and pass something. It drives me crazy!! The last time the R's were in charge and actually accomplished something good was when Newt was Speaker. A lot of good legislation that helped lead to a lot of good prosperity for the country. I guess why I will never be a politician because I'm like who cares about who gets credit, make the country better and we all win!!!
It will never happen, but I would almost like to see it be illegal for news sources to put the letter, R or D behind a person's name. Then you hear the opinion and not have your mind made up already. I'm not pointing fingers either because I'm no better than anyone else.

 

The crazy thing is if either party made it a priority to pass bi-partisan legislation and demonstrate (1) the things they were able to accomplish and (2) the things they weren't able to pass, but think were completely reasonable proposals then they put the onus on the other side to defend why they vote for a reasonable proposal. They'd probably pick up a lot of voters in the middle.

Maybe that is happening to an extent but nobody cares or wants to hear about it since that's boring politics. People only care about "bombshell" allegations against the other side. My House Rep is Vern Buchanan and all I ever see from him are extremely misleadingly-worded polls where the pre-determined outcome is that Biden is bad. Can't say I've seen him send out any emails with "here's what I've proposed or worked on to improve things in this country."

 

Die you know the differences between the new Senate bill and HR2?

 

I believe it is why Congress has like a 10% approval rating. The problem always is though we continually vote for our guy that we give that kind of approval to what he belongs to, because "My guy is not the problem". Probably why they won't put legislation to a vote, then each of us can see that maybe my guy is the problem. They may generally dislike each other, but they all are about the power and know the game to keep their power. It is really sad, but I think in the past 10 years or so, it has gotten worse on both sides overall and not sure how it will ever get fixed now.

 

People are too willfully stupid to ever pick up on that. Sorry, but they just are. That entire concept is way over the head of the average American (moron) voter. There are documentaries on it, quotes backing it up and still. . . . "crickets".

 

For the House at least, it's also a consequence of extreme gerrmandering. So many districts across the country are so completely safe from "the other party" in general elections, that effectively Representatives only have to worry about losing in their primaries, which forces them more extreme in their political stances. GOPers in very red districts don't want to defend compromises with Democrats to their constituents when some extreme nutjob can bash them over the head with it and primary them. Same goes for Democrats in extreme blue districts.

 

But they just want to bay at the moon. You know that, right? If you haven't noticed, the R's are completely bereft of ideas. Not just good ideas, but ideas in general. As you can see with your own eyes, most of their "official positions" are just being contrary to current policy. Like Ukraine. They're anti-Ukraine because Biden is pro-Ukraine. Period. And it goes no deeper than that.

 

Just ending the primary system would be a great start. I still do not see how disenfranchising 50-60% of the electorate from a very critical stage of the election is Constitutional.

 

Oh I understand that dating back to all the pointless, repeated votes to repeal Obamacare. No replacement proposals or alternatives.

 

Well, to put it simply, they're dumb. They don't have anything to offer, so they pretend to not be as dumb as they really are. Face it. When Trump took over, R's became the party of the clueless moron voter. Even the smart R's just stay quiet in an effort to stay under their radar and the inevitable stupid tantrum if you dare to say anything remotely intelligent. I mean, does it get any dumber than obsessing over building Roman-Era technology (a wall) between us and our No. 1 trading partner, both currently and for the next 100 years. Their platform is just stupid on top of stupid, on top of Stupid, with a slice of idiot and a big fat moron on top.