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I predict this will tilt the election to Trump

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gator95, Sep 27, 2024.

  1. AzCatFan

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    Why did you stop at 2023? We have monthly totals for 2024. And they are significantly lower.

    As for the OP, the totals go back decades. It also doesn't state where an immigrant is if not in ICE custody. And the violent criminals are most likely serving their respective sentences in state or Fed prison. Technically not in ICE custody. But also, not a danger to the general population.
     
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  2. rivergator

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    A few examples of the usual crap after the report came out. There's more, of course.

    https://www.mediamatters.org/immigr...-ice-data-fearmonger-about-supposed-immigrant
     
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  3. gator_jo

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    Lying Don, doing his racist lying thing.

    The remarkable part at this point, of course, is not that he's a deplorable racist liar. It's how many people tolerate that. Or the organization that helps, lies for and defends him.

    A repulsive time in American history.
     
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  4. citygator

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    You mean this rocket ship up of rising immigration level that Trump passed onward that were already at his decade highs in 2018 and lead to our current situation? How did that explosion in immigration happen under his leadership if the border was clamped down genius?

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  5. VAg8r1

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    So the overwhelming majority of Venezuelan gang members entered the US when Trump was the President.
     
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  6. rivergator

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  7. mikemcd810

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    Entirely predictable that there was more to this than it seemed:

    "But the “vast majority” of them entered the country prior to the Biden administration and had their custody status determined “long before this Administration,” the Department of Homeland Security said in a statement, noting that many were in prison. Also, the noncitizens include those who entered the country legally, such as green-card holders."
     
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  8. gator95

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    LOL. How hard is it for Homeland Security to do a simple database crosscheck and see how many are currently incarcerated? Literally would take an hour to find the answer. Instead of using the word "many currently incarcerated", they could've given us the exact amount of illegals who are incarcerated for murder. Also, if they know the "vast majority" entered before the current admin, why not state that data for everyone to see since they obviously have it. Don't care who is in office, but having any person in our country illegally and has been convicted of murder that person should be deported immediately.
     
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  9. dangolegators

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    Bombshell! Only biased and gullible people like you fell for it.
     
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  10. gator95

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    LOL. Why is there even 1 illegal convicted murderer who isn't in jail still in our country? You think that is something any administration should be proud of? Those numbers that I posted are brutal. Should have exactly ZERO illegals who have felony convictions running around free in our country.
     
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  11. rivergator

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    LOL? I'm not sure your point again.
    Trump and Vance claimed that the report shows that Harris let in more than 13,000 “illegal immigrant murderers” into the United States. Factcheck points out that this false. The vast majority entered the US before Biden took office.
    But you take exception to Factcheck because you think the DHS should be able to know exactly where they all are and that it'd only take an hour.
    What does one have to do with the other?
     
  12. gator95

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    I am laughing because you love to fact check stuff but never thought to fact check the fact checkers. Yes, IF the DHS is going to say they know exactly how many illegal murderers were in the US before the Biden/Harris, campaign, then release the data. Why hide it if they have it? Sorry if I want to know where the illegal murderers are located in the US. Guess I'm crazy for wanting that info...
     
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  13. mikemcd810

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    So you're more upset that you didn't get enough additional contextual information than you are at the initial information that was intentionally misleading and lacked any context?
     
  14. gator95

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    Intentionally misleading? It was data ICE sent over. I think it's ridiculous that we have any illegals that have murder conviction walking around free in the US. How is anyone ok with that? And save me the BS about the home country won't take them back. Simple solution. Throw them on a flight to their home country and be done with them. Don't care if they are Irish, German, Asian, Indian, Hispanic or purple. We should have Zero illegals that have a murder conviction walking around free in the US.
     
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  15. mikemcd810

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    Yes, misleading to score points against Biden/Harris and you fell for it hook, line, and sinker which isn't great for your "mr down the middle independent" personality you keep trying to push despite no one buying it.
     
  16. gator95

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    It's an indictment on every admin. If it was released in 2020 I would say that is awful for the Trump admin as well. It's easy to do when you don't have a dog in the fight like you do.
     
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    If it's an indictment of every administration, including the Trump administration, why do you predict that it will tilt the election to Trump?
     
  18. gator95

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    Was this data released in 2020? If it was I would've said the same thing. Not hard to understand the importance of WHEN something is released. Guess that is hard for you to grasp.
     
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  19. mrhansduck

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    I wasn't asking about 2020 but about 2024. If the information you posted that is available now is an indictment of the Trump administration (as well as all other administrations), seems fair to ask why it would not only benefit Trump but be the one thing that tilts the election in his favor.
     
  20. gator95

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    Because at the time it was posted ICE didn't specify when these illegals originally came in the country. Is it that hard to understand? Also, considering that around 4 times as many illegals came into the country during the biden/harris admin compared to the trump admin that would give people pause about how many of those are criminals.
     
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