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I predict this will tilt the election to Trump

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gator95, Sep 27, 2024 at 4:00 PM.

  1. gtr2x

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    No doubt bad news, but those #s don't represent just the last 3 years.
     
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  2. gatorpa

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    Sounds like an excuse to me(always some bad apples among the many good people).

    Why should any convicted murderers be allowed into our country?
    Seems like we should have a better way of deciding who can come into our country.
     
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  3. gator95

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    Noyoy are quoting only verified numbers of murderers and rapists plus you have no idea the numbers of got aways that they can’t account for. You know, the most likely people to try to avoid detection.
     
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  4. gatordavisl

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    All of what murderers and rapists?
     
  5. gatordavisl

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    Public education should be on this list but unfortunately, it's gone by the wayside with emphasis on fear mongering, immigration, economy, etc.
     
  6. VAg8r1

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    Even if the numbers are doubled it's still under one percent. Multiple the number by 10 and it's still nowhere close to the numbers that Trump is claiming.
    Trump claim that ‘millions’ of criminals flooded U.S. under Biden doesn’t hold up
     
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  7. VAg8r1

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    The numbers probably include criminal noncitizens that entered the US under Trump and maybe even under Obama.
     
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  8. gator95

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    You are just guessing. Unfortunately we have to guess because we don’t have a secure border. I blame both sides on this. This is a huge security risk but some on here don’t give a rip.
     
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  9. OklahomaGator

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    Why would the Border Patrol release anyone into the country who was a convicted criminal in another country?
     
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  10. VAg8r1

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    It's been mentioned in other posts, the data indicate that noncitizens included those that are undocumented are less likely to commit crimes than native born Americans. Whether you're willing to admit it or not Trump is simply making up shit. If you disagree provide a link to a credible source indicating that there are millions of illegals committing violent crimes.
     
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  11. OklahomaGator

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    Criminal Noncitizen Statistics

    Interesting chart of the last 8 years in this link. There is no doubt there were criminals admitted into the country during the Trump-Pence administration but looking at the number almost every category has increased during the Biden-Harris administration.
     
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  12. VAg8r1

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    Considering the total number of border crossings the number of criminal noncitizens who have entered the country is actually very small as percentage of the total. It still doesn't mean that it's not a problem, what it does mean is that the former president has greatly exaggerated the scope of the problem :
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  13. OklahomaGator

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    Thanks for posting that chart, it wouldn't format properly for me. I probably should have copied more of the article.
     
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  14. chemgator

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    And you take Trump seriously on the border? Because he talks tough about immigrants? Did you forget that he was the chief executive in charge of the border for FOUR YEARS not too long ago? Did you forget that he built 54 miles of fence (in an area that already had a fence) out of a 2,000-mile border with Mexico (that's about 2.5%, in case you were wondering)? He totally failed to secure the border when he had the chance. He said that Mexico would pay for the "wall" that he was building. They paid for nothing. Trump lied to you.

    Harris has not been president yet. She has not had any authority over immigration as of yet. Trump had actual authority over the issue, and he did essentially NOTHING. How gullible are YOU?
     
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  15. gatordavisl

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    So they can vote! Duh . . .
     
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  16. AzCatFan

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    There is a better way. Allow those wanting to work to come in legally and be screened with a background check. Don't allow those with a criminal record in legally. Not perfect, but better than what we have.
     
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    Regarding immigrant crime
     
  18. Emmitto

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    How is that regarding immigrant crime?
     
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    Plus, until we find out for sure that Trump threw people out of helicopters in the 90’s, he’s only a rapist.

    Rapist AND murderer is the line. One without the other = Just Like You.
     
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