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Hunter Biden to plead guilty to federal charges

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, Jun 20, 2023.

  1. AzCatFan

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    If you like lies, listen to Shokin. He's an expert at lying, grifting, and corruption. That's why every EU country, the US, and the IMF all wanted him out of power in Ukraine.
     
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  2. citygator

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    There is no evidence Biden lied about being in business with his son. If you can prove he was a business partner you’d have a front page byline in the NYTs. As it is, all you have is your speculation.
     
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  3. domgator

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    Don't forget most of the calls were made at like 2 or 3am in the US so Joe could tell them about the weather. I guess we now know why the Chinese sent the "weather" balloon because they knew Ole Joe was way into the weather.
     
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  4. duchen

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    We don’t impeach people even if they discussed business. It is a pathetic line of argument.
     
  5. duchen

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    That’s your witness! Maybe je can sing “Spring Time for Putin” and make the playwright a lot of money. I would recommend Zero Mostel if he was still alive! You didn’t read the 2016 Foreign Policy article either.
     
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  6. domgator

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    He's no better than Ole Joe who has lied about his upbringing, his education, his wife's death, his affair with Jill, his son's death, his showers with his daughter, Hunter's criminal acts, the laptop, his knowledge of Hunter's business associates, his wealth just to name a few. Prolific liar in chief.
     
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  7. VAg8r1

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    The point isn't whether or not Biden lied. Your real point is that you think Biden should prove a negative i.e. that he never received bribes. Essentially you're trying to shift the burden of proof from the MAGA politicians and right-wing media who have or are trying to create the myth of the "Biden crime family". Rather than proving that Joe Biden accepted bribes through Hunter they and apparently you are trying to imply that he is probably guilty because he cannot prove that he never received compensation for influencing policy.
     
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  8. VAg8r1

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    So you apparently believe that corrupt pro-Russian former Ukrainian Prosecutor General should be considered a credible source even though both the EU and IMF also wanted Shokin canned because he was corrupt and actually called for his removal before Joe Biden did so.
    Since you apparently didn't bother to read these links when I previously posted them, he is another shot.
    EU hails sacking of Ukraine’s prosecutor Viktor Shokin
    Envoys pushed to oust Ukraine prosecutor before Biden
    IMF Demand For Ukraine Reform Just Latest Red Flag For Poroshenko
    While prosecutors appear to look the other way, officials are upping their graft game. Several Western company executives told Reuters on January 27 that "organized graft has given way to a free-for-all where bureaucrats grab what they can, while they can."
    Anticorruption campaigners point to the controversial appointment in February 2014, at the height of the Euromaidan furor, of sexagenarian Prosecutor-General Viktor Shokin. Shokin previously served in the same post under Presidents Leonid Kuchma and Viktor Yushchenko, and in his new tenure has proposed a number of Yanukovych-era holdovers for key functions, making him the ultimate political insider in the eyes of critics. Poroshenko has ignored repeated calls to sack Shokin, including from more than 100 members of parliament.

    "The system of corruption has become more chaotic, more haphazard," the director of a major industrial company told Reuters. "Before some issues could be resolved without money, but now these options don't exist -- everyone is on the take."
     
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  9. BigCypressGator1981

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    Sooo many questions! Zero answers you want to here!
     
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  10. GatorJMDZ

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    Your alternative universe is a most curious place.
     
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  11. GatorJMDZ

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    No, no info in there, just more bullshit.

    Shokin was a blemish on the buttocks of a democratic Ukraine. Biden should be lauded for popping that pimple. You can give people like the poster you quoted a dozen compelling reasons why Shokin had to be fired, but they can't get over this "Biden crime family" lie they have now internalized. It's just another chapter in the "Stop the Steal" mentality they exhibit. God protect us.
     
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  12. domgator

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    Which of those i
    Which of those items I listed did he not lie about? Just pick one.
     
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  13. GatorJMDZ

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    You made the accusations. Where is YOUR proof he lied about any of those things? PROOF, not the normal crap you people post.
     
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  14. gator95

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    No the point is simple. Biden lied. Why did he feel the need to lie? You and the other far lefties are trying hard to avoid that question. It’s ok, you are too partisan to be rational.
     
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  15. enviroGator

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    I can not believe people are still over here trying to make a big deal about Hunter while totally ignoring the Trump's Troubles post.

    Trying to overthrow democracy >>>>>>>>>>> Influence peddling.

    It is not even close, yet the MAGAs think the Bidens are the crime family.
     
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  16. gator95

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    This thread is focusing on Hunter Biden and his issues. Not sure what that has to do with this? Trump deserves everything that happens to him. Hope he goes away, but that isn’t germane to the topic. I get that you and most want to ignore why Biden lied about his business dealings with Hunter.
     
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  17. WestCoastGator

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    I think Hunter Biden should be impeached!
     
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  18. domgator

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    Seriously? Wow.
     
  19. BigCypressGator1981

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    The burden of proof rests with you because you’re making the claim. It’s not our job to disprove your bullshit.
     
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  20. VAg8r1

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    The focus of this thread should be on Hunter Biden, a rather sleazy former cocaine addict who tried to monetize his familial relationship. Instead it has devolved into an absurd and unproven thread on the mythical Biden crime family lead by Joe Biden who according to the narrative perpetuated by the right-wing media and a number of sleazy Republican politicians received bribes from Ukrainian and/or Chinese sources through Hunter.
     
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