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Hunter Biden to plead guilty to federal charges

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, Jun 20, 2023.

  1. GatorJMDZ

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    This Devon Archer?:

    Devon Archer Sentenced To A Year And A Day In Prison For The Fraudulent Issuance And Sale Of More Than $60 Million Of Tribal Bonds


    1. Assumes facts not in evidence.
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    Your most valid statement.:

    "I'm confused..."
     
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  2. gator95

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  4. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

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    Why not? It clusters moderate-left and high reliability. Similar but more reliable than the NY Post, which clusters moderate to strong right. You can look 'em up here:
    Interactive Chart | Ad Fontes Media
     
  5. GatorJMDZ

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    Get your head out of the sand, read the actual transcript and start apologizing for your incessant bullshit.
     
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  6. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

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    Ya beat me to it, but I always find that chart hard to read. Can't locate the sources I'm looking for. The interactive component is nice.
     
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  7. gator95

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    Get your panties in a bunch Karen?
     
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  8. VAg8r1

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    Keep in mind that they along with their Dear Leader and most Republican politicians are playing to an audience that chooses to remain willfully ignorant.
     
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  9. GatorJMDZ

    GatorJMDZ gatorjack VIP Member

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    Just waiting for you to leave people's legs alone.
     
  10. snatchmagnet

    snatchmagnet Bring On The Bacon Premium Member

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    Whether he’s guilty or not, you, blatantly, decided not to answer his questions. Joe lied about all of them. Did he lie because he just couldn’t remember? Which would be very believable, by the way, or did he lie because he’s hiding something. Either way, he lied. Whether you choose to accept that or not is irrelevant.
     
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  11. coleg

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    Wash DC would be a ghost town if you removed all the liars, as would be every capital city of the 50 states. LOL
     
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  12. okeechobee

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    Why the hell did the U.S. have any say in whom Ukraine's prosecutors were in the first place? He was fired because of Burisma and the guy who replaced Shokin was subsequently fired by Zelenskyy and met with Giuliani and was going to help Trump. He had spent time in prison before. It's not like Poroshenko replaced Shokin with the model prosecutor. Most politicians in Ukraine are corrupt. But why the hell would Biden have any say in who sovereign nation's prosecutor is in the first place? We do very little trade with Ukraine. What's the connection? Burisma. That is the only connection.

    The narrative that Shokin was such a corrupt prosecutor he had to be replaced is severely undermined by the fact that the man who replaced him had previously spent time in prison for corruption charges, was subsequently fired by Zelenskyy upon his ascension to president and also met with Giuliani as well. It's more a reflection that Joe didn't understand the lay of the land in Ukraine. He accomplished nothing by getting rid of Shokin other than pressure off of Burisma, or so he thought.

    You're just another cheerleader who takes anything Joe spoon feeds you. He's made a career out of lying and you love it when he lies to you.
     
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  13. okeechobee

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    But you don't lie about something that has a strong possibility of becoming a criminal charge unless.........there's motivation to lie about it.
     
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  14. okeechobee

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    Lying about how many college degrees you earned is one thing Joe did. Not a crime, however. What the Bidens did in Ukraine will likely rise to the level of criminality. So lying about that isn't the same as lying about how many women you banged your senior year of college. Or a bill you once supported, but conveniently no longer do. Those are political lies that have no basis of criminality. When you begin making material misstatements about something that involves a criminal act, that's completely different.
     
  15. snatchmagnet

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    No argument with that at all
     
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  16. AzCatFan

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    We were cosigning a loan from the IMF for Ukraine. Monies that we were guaranteeing we'd pay back if and when Ukraine could not. Monies that have been coming from Congressional aid for years, and the same Congressional aid, passed in a bipartisan manner, that Trump eventually withheld past his legal, 45-day window. Cosigning the loan gave us, and Biden, who was acting under the direction of Obama, to say we won't cosign unless Shokin is gone. Again, having Shokin fired was also the wishes of the entire EU, and the IMF.

    That Zelensky replaced one corrupt Ukrainian prosecutor with another is disappointing. But out of our power to do anything about until the new prosecutor did something corrupt too, and we were in a position to dictate terms.

    Read the transcripts of Archer's testimony. Shokin wasn't a threat to Burisma in 2016. He'd "completed" an investigation a few years earlier of Burisma, and it magically went away. Archer also had zero knowledge of either Biden ever taking a bribe from Burisma. But Archer did testify that Joe and Hunter never talked about Hunter's business, even though Hunter would make inferences that they did to Hunter's business partners.

    Again, there is zero hard evidence against Joe. If you can't see that all you have is inference, innuendo, hearsay, and conjecture. That might work for Lionel Hutz as "kinds of evidence," on the Simpsons. But in the real world, hard evidence is required. And so far, there is none against Joe, and a lot of evidence that supports Joe's version of events. If you can't see that, maybe you have your head so far up a MAGA behind, all you see is crap.
     
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  17. snatchmagnet

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    Lol. I’ve never blocked anyone. What’s the point? The guy asked a question that no one wants to answer so you block him? I get it that it happens in both sides, it’s just some people done want to accept the fact that their side does it too.
     
  18. gatorchamps960608

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    The transcript of the whistleblower was released. Every time he was asked, he denied that Joe Biden said or did anything wrong.

    The House GOP and all the right wing media ecosphere talking HB 24/7 are an utter joke.
     
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  19. okeechobee

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    Poroshenko.

    Oh, I have. He stated Joe Biden joined at least 20 various phone calls with Hunter's various international dealings. Joe Biden said he had didn't know what Hunter was doing. He was obviously extensively involved in Hunter Biden's dealings in Ukraine and China. Why would he lie about this if there's nothing to hide? If there's "no hard evidence", why lie about being a party to Hunter's dealings? Does your dad call into conference calls you have at work? If he did, it'd be kinda awkward wouldn't it? Especially if your dad happened to be the VPOTUS. One could logically conclude Joe Biden would have been way too busy just to drop in on 20 business calls with Hunter......that is unless he was part of the operation. Then it's not so awkward. Then it makes sense. Joe Biden said in 2019 that he had never discussed with his son or anyone else in the family "anything having to do with their businesses". Yeah, I read the transcripts. Joe Biden lied....again and you are lapping it up like a good little boy.
     
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  20. snatchmagnet

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    So this is bs, The trump impeachment was legit. Lol. I hate trump. I hope he goes away, but seriously, attempt to look at it from a neutral perspective
     
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