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Hunter Biden to plead guilty to federal charges

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, Jun 20, 2023.

  1. okeechobee

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    Amazing the detail those guys were able to fathom.
     
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  2. citygator

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    Detail? lol. We are here a half a decade later with zero evidence... just 5 years of innuendo.. shit, you cant even present the information straight forward from the articles you post. What was that burner phone BS up thread you posted providing zero evidence anything was wrong just more innuendo that was disconnected from the article you posted?
     
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  3. AzCatFan

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    It's called investigative journalism. I'm sure journalists have looked into Hunter the same way. Still waiting for the hard evidence that connects Joe with any wrong doing that contains more than innuendo, hearsay, and unsubstantiated claims.
     
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  4. okeechobee

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    Yes, we are all well aware you have your head buried firmly in the sand. You don’t have to keep reminding us, but feel free to continue doing so. It’s kinda funny.
     
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  5. AzCatFan

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    This is the funniest post ever! Congrats! You really think journalists are burying all the evidence against Joe Biden? Even Fox journalists? Or farther right like Gateway Pundit? If they had the goods on Joe, they'd write it. So why hasn't a story with hard evidence against Joe come out yet?
     
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  6. VAg8r1

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    Love being lied to? For an example you can always look in the mirror.
     
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  7. gator95

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    Interesting info from the released transcripts. Glad Joe only talked "the weather" during in person dinners LOL.

    Hunter got a PORSCHE after bringing Joe to dinner with a Kazakh oligarch: Devon Archer's FULL testimony on how Biden 'brand' was used as INTIMIDATION by Burisma - and the then-VP's 20 meetings with son's business partners - is released | Daily Mail Online

    He also told lawmakers that Joe sat and had dinner in-person on at least two occasions with Hunter and his foreign business partners, who then wired money almost immediately after to Biden-affiliated companies.

    In the spring of 2014, Joe joined Hunter and a handful of his business partners for dinner at Cafe Milano in Washington, D.C. Those at the dinner included Kenes Rakishev, Karim Massimov, Yelena Baturina and possibly Eric Schwerin.

    Archer confirmed that Joe was present long enough to eat dinner with the group.

    Following the dinner, $3.5 million was wired from Russian billionaire Yelena Baturina into Rosemont Seneca Thornton on February 14.
     
  8. AzCatFan

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    Not much new here. Hunter was selling access to Joe and D.C. to Burisma. And no doubt, the last name Biden carried weight. But still nothing that ties Joe to anything Hunter accomplished or received from Burisma. Hunter got a fancy new car. What did Joe get?

    And again, the firing on Shokin was supported by US foreign policy, EU foreign policy, and the IMF, who was going to loan Ukraine the money with US backing. If Shokin was some paragon of virtue, there would be a story here. But he's not. He's been proven to be completely corrupt, and is the one telling the story that he was fired because he was investigating Burisma. Which Shokin did in 2014 (before Hunter was on the board), and it quietly, and magically went away. Likely because Bursima paid Shokin a bribe.

    Maybe Shokin was threatening another Burisma investigation in 2016? Maybe Burisma hired Hunter because they thought DC could help root out the corruption in the Ukraine AG office? And maybe it did succeed? But how is this a scandal? Again, the US, EU, and IMF all wanted Shokin ousted because he was corrupt as corrupt can be.
     
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  9. okeechobee

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    Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure why some folks are still giving Joe the benefit of the doubt here when he obviously lied through his teeth about not knowing what Hunter was doing for work in Ukraine. But as I said, some people just really love being lied to. If there's nothing there, why lie about it? Like the Axios interview where he lies about it and then immediately pivots to a Trump equivocation. As if anything Trump may or may not have done has any bearing on whether or not Joe Biden broke the law. If it was all above board, just say that and be transparent. But as Biden has always done, he chose to lie to the American people and generally people lie for a reason. Especially if they work in politics.
     
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  10. AzCatFan

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    You are the one being lied to. Especially if you believe Shokin's version of the story, that he was fired because of Burisma. Maybe that's part of the story, but the real story is the US and EU, along with the IMF all were pushing to oust Shokin long before Joe Biden entered the picture. Why? Because Shokin was corrupt, and Russia's back pocket.

    And again, while Hunter got lavish gifts and paid by Burisma, there is still nothing more than unverified allegations that Joe received anything from Burisma. And once again, Joe was working under the direction of Obama's stated goal, backed by the EU and the IMF when it came to removing Shokin.

    Here's a question. If Hunter is never hired by Burisma, does Shokin not get fired? That answer is very likely no, because again, the momentum to fire Shokin started from the EU before Hunter was ever in the picture. Joe Biden was just the final nail in Shokin's coffin.
     
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  11. whattheuf

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    As the resident truth seeker, can you advise me where most of THFSG's staunch Biden defenders stand on the following questions: Was it wrong of President Biden to consistently lie to the American populace about 1) his knowledge of Hunter's foreign business activities 2) his personal communications with Hunter and his business partners and 3) his knowledge of Hunter's lap top and the legitimacy of the intelligence communities false, pre-election statements about the lap top?

    I'm confused, if Biden did nothing wrong why would he make so many false statements concerning legitimate/legal, family, business activities?
     
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    Good luck with that. You will get the run around just like the trump fanboys would make the same excuses. Both sides defending these idiots are morons themselves.
     
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  13. AzCatFan

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    Find a source that Joe had intimate knowledge of Hunter's foreign business activities, please. Yes, Joe knew Hunter was on Burisma's BOD, but even Hunter's business partner, Archer, testified that Joe and Hunter never talked about Hunter's business activities. And if there were 20+ calls between Joe and Hunter, plus dinners where the two of them attended with Hunter's business partners, someone out there could testify that yes, Hunter and Joe talked business. Yet, to date, there have been zero people testifying to that. Why is that?

    The laptop is a different story. It "smelled" funny from the start. Why would Hunter, who was living in CA at the time, drop off a laptop at a store in Delaware? In the end, the FBI made a mistake, and yes, the laptop was Hunter's. And the contents of the laptop has been disseminated to many people, and yet, there is still no hard evidence connecting Joe to Hunter's business dealings. Again, I ask, why is that?

    We know Hunter is a drug addicted fool who was peddling his last name and the illusion that he could influence his father. Not the first person with a claim to fame who tried something like this. Won't be the last. But the evidence directly connecting Joe to any of Hunter's dealings hasn't been produced yet. In fact, what has been produced is testimony from Archer that Hunter directed people not to interfere with US Government workings, and that Hunter and Joe never discussed business on either the phone calls, nor the dinners.

    Show me the direct evidence of what Joe did wrong? Getting Shokin fired? How was that wrong, when the foundation for this happened by the EU and IMF before Hunter was hired by Burisma, and before Joe came into the picture? Especially considering how corrupt Shokin was. It's not wrong, and again, Joe was following stated US foreign policy at the time to clean up Ukraine corruption, backed by the EU and IMF.

    Joe Biden isn't perfect. But to date, no hard evidence he acted improperly.
     
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  14. Gatoragman

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    So now the Washington Post is a good source?
     
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  15. Gatoragman

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    Were the funds withheld?
     
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  17. VAg8r1

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    While the newspaper leans left editorially it is far more credible with respect to reporting the actual news than Fox News or the NY Post. Last time I checked the Post didn't lose a defamation lawsuit on the scale of the Dominion lawsuit recently settled by Fox or the Smartmatic lawsuit that will almost certainly be settled with Rupert's network agreeing to pay similar or possibly even more damages to the plaintiff. Note where the Post is on the chart below compared to the sources from which MAGA nation prefers to receive its "news"(Fox News, NewsMax, OAN, the Daily Caller, etc.).
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  18. Gatoragman

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    I know nothing!!!!!
    Well, I know nothing intimate!!!
    I never spoke to Hunter or his business associates.
    Well, only the 20 plus times but we didn't talk about business.
    Oh well we never discussed anything intimate about his business.
    We know Joe is a car guy, a new Porsche shows up after dinner with Hunter's business associates where no business was discussed. Does Joe ask Hunter where the car came from? Of course not!!
    Just a dad helping his son, having dinner with the son's friends, nothing to see here.
     
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  19. Gatoragman

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    Just trying to find out who we can trust with their reporting. I guess that is a moving target though for most of you leftist.
     
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  20. AzCatFan

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    To answer the question, the Trump withheld the Congressionally approved funds from Ukraine for 55 days, which is against the 1974 Impoundment Control Act. The Act gives the POTUS 45 days to either release funds, or notify Congress funds are being withheld, and a specific reason for the POTUS' actions. Trump did neither.

    As to why Burisma hired Hunter, it's because of Hunter's last name, and Hunter was peddling access to Burisma is my guess. Again, Hunter is not the first person with a claim to fame to monetize his/her last name, and won't be the last.

    Still waiting on any hard evidence that proves Joe did something wrong. Like discuss Hunter's business deals, Joe took money from Burisma, etc.
     
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