Hunter Biden to plead guilty to federal charges

Maybe you should tell the Senate Republicans, who found no evidence of improper influence.

Republican Inquiry Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by Biden (Published 2020)

WASHINGTON — An election-year investigation by Senate Republicans into corruption allegations against Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son, Hunter, involving Ukraine found no evidence of improper influence or wrongdoing by the former vice president, closing out an inquiry its leaders had hoped would tarnish the Democratic presidential nominee.

The investigation found that Hunter Biden had “cashed in” on his father’s name to close lucrative business deals around the world. It also concluded that his work for Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company then mired in a corruption scandal, while the former vice president was directing American policy toward Kyiv had given the appearance of a conflict of interest and alarmed some State Department officials.

But an 87-page report summing up the findings, released jointly on Wednesday by the Senate Homeland Security and Finance Committees, contained no evidence that the elder Mr. Biden improperly manipulated American policy toward Ukraine or committed any other misdeed. In fact, investigators heard witness testimony that rebutted those charges.​

 

No one has disputed that Hunter received money to try to influence his father. But his father did the OPPOSITE of what their interest would be. Shoykin was slow walking and/or protecting Burisma. And it wasnt VP Biden that wanted Shoykin out; it was the US and all of Europe. That would be a pretty wide-ranging conspiracy. Moreover, Shoykin was tied into the pro-Russian oligarchs

Viktor Shokin - Wikipedia

Amid domestic and international pressure, he was removed from office by the Ukrainian Parliament in March 2016, a move welcomed by the European Union, the United States, the International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank.

Shokin's removal played a central role in the Biden–Ukraine conspiracy theory because when U.S. Vice President Joe Biden pressured the Ukrainian government to fire him, Shokin was investigating Burisma a company tied to his son, Hunter Biden, but Obama administration officials, European diplomats, and anti-corruption advocates in Ukraine say Shokin was removed because he failed to pursue Ukrainian politicians for corruption, and that they intervened before Biden did.

Among other issues, he was slow-walking the investigation into Zlochevsky and Burisma and


And while that email, standing alone, may be genuine, beware of limited Burisma records. The Russians hacked Burisma's data, and their fellow travelers in US office are all too happy to use the results.

It's just a Russian disinformation campaign

 

There probably isn't anything to see. Using two examples, at the time Eric Schwerin visited the White House he was employed as a lobbyist; he wasn't associated with Hunter Biden.
Revolving Door: Eric Schwerin Employment Summary | OpenSecrets
In the case of John Robinson Walker, the funds that were allegedly wired to the Biden family (Hunter and other family members, even the articles didn't allege that the Joe Biden received the funds) were transferred in 2017. The last time I checked Donald Trump was in the White House and the Republicans controlled both Houses of Congress. The implication is that the funds were used to bribe Biden because Robinson visited the White House during Biden's term as vice president. If Walker was supposedly bribing Old Joe it seems that the payments would have coincided with his visits to the White House. Maybe the more logical explanation of his visits to the White House was because his wife was employed by Jill Biden, not to influence the Obama Administration. My guess is that he was probably visiting his wife at her office.

 

I don’t think anybody says it’s “OK”. Hunter Biden is a drug addict and a grifter. But it isn’t specifically illegal if Joe Biden never acted on it. People can’t always control the actions of their drug addicted adult children.

 

I'm willing to concede the Burisma may very well have given Hunter Biden the position of its board in an attempt to influence Obama Administration policy. That being said there is absolutely no evidence that Hunter ever did so. Also keep in mind it's not all that uncommon for corporations to have individuals on their Boards of Directors who have little or no subject matter expertise. If you own shares in a publicly-traded company read the biographies of outside board members. My guess is that in almost every case there will be some directors with no subject matter expertise. Also remember that Hunter did have experience in venture capital and corporate governance. By the way I'm also willing to concede that Hunter Biden is sleazy individual who tried to monetize his familial relationship. That being said there is no real substantive evidence that he ever actually did so. Inferences by Hunter in text messages and emails that he could influence Dad or unverified interviews with extremely sketchy informants aren't really evidence.

 

Winner!

 

I think it's time to place Hunters head in the guillotine and present it to the GOP congress. An honorable and worthy sacrifice for past misdeeds.

 

Remember, these are the same people who think money in politics is implicit bribery.

Nevermind the statements by Hunter admitting his father's involvement, admitting paying for his dad's things, Joe and Hunter being in the same place at the same time with some of these exchanges, the timing of events that you mentioned above, and the mysterious Biden wealth.

It's all one big mystery and series of coincidences.

 

But his head is not the part of his body they are really obsessed with and covet

 

Lol. I said some mods "are obtuse" and that's edited by a mod.

You call men on this board pigs and that's an "opinion." Lying that another poster is saying "slavery wasn't all bad" and that's a "judgment." You call someone else out for these things and that's "unnecessarily antagonistic." It's all arbitrary judgments with no consistent standard or accountability.

The Biden DOJ would be proud.

 

More fun and better ratings to put him on "trial" at maga rallies and hang him in effigy, rinse and repeat.

 

How many times do you have to be told that if you have an issue with a mod, message the mods privately and address in that way. This is at least your third "reminder" in a week. The rules apply to you, you are not special, you are not entitled.

 

It sure seems like you’re trying to say it’s “OK” by using the “people can’t control actions of their drug addicted adult children”? That is a smokescreen if I’ve ever seen one.

 

I believe there were already laws in place that prohibit conflict of interests of a sitting VP’s family. That’s why Joe “not knowing” what Hunter did in Ukraine is so laughable. It’s part of his job duties as VP to know exactly what his son does for work. You don’t get to that level of government and not know what your son does for work.

 

What laws would they be? Links? Yes, there are laws that those in government cannot unduly use their influence to help their families. But Hunter is not the first relative of a POTUS or VPOTUS that lived off the family name and caused embarrassment. See Billy Beer, for example.

 

Apparently me and a handful of others are the only ones the rules apply to.

Again, the Biden DOJ would be proud.

 

Respectfully, Oklahoma, I have no issue with you personally or with what you're doing here. You're standing up for your people and I completely understand that.

But there is no logic or consistency to the enforcement of the rules. Period. That's not to say there are no good mods or that no mods enforce the rules consistently. I would say you and Tilly (among others) are both fair and enforce the rules consistently. But what is 100% certain is that some mods do not care about enforcing the rules consistently, and some mods have a "difference of opinion" on the meaning of what some of the rules mean, or as I would like to call it, "interpret the rule based on the poster." The classic "show me the person and I'll show you the crime." These same mods will defend posts claiming that they are mere "opinions" or "judgments" while characterizing almost identical ones, or even less egregious ones, as a rule violations.

I've been through this rodeo before, and I know the MO from the admins is to defend the mods no matter what. They're volunteers, and the forum needs them, so they're untouchable... and I get that. But if me expressing that grievance on the forum as opposed to the PM is the only way the message is heard, so be it.

Better this than be forced to fight with both hands tied behind my back. And despite me taking this to the forum, I think by Too Hot standards I've been more than respectful.