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How to Fix the Broken College Sports System

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by murphree_hall, Dec 28, 2023.

  1. murphree_hall

    murphree_hall VIP Member

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    Not sure what you mean. The NFL is a very successful business. Maybe it just not understanding what you were trying to say.
     
  2. Wanne15

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    Colleges need the 85 ships to train the future players. You can’t have a new influx of players every year that haven’t had a year or two to develop. Without a scholarship, these kids wouldn’t be able to be in school. Cutting to schollys would drop the kids down to the next level for development and they woul have to transfer up.
     
  3. CHFG8R

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    What are you talking about? This is what we're getting now. What are the chances a mid-tier school will ever hold onto that 3* that developed into a 4* or 5*?

    Answer: ZERO!
     
  5. paidinfull

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    Having the schools pay the athletes directly will bring title nine into the equation and create a whole other set of problems. It won’t get rid of the third party NIL money either. The fan bases that want the best athletes will continue to spend whatever they want to get them.
     
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  6. Wanne15

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    This post pretty much sums it up. We have many professional sports leagues that fall under the same exact laws. You can pick from any model out there that has already been perfected. When billions are involved, college football is a professional sport and it falls under the same laws.
     
  7. Wanne15

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    It would push those four stars out of hs to lesser programs for training like we just did ETN to a much higher level than it already is. Get it smartass?
     
  8. Wanne15

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    They probably would have to separate football somehow. Title nine probably would be an issue but these guys are generating the money it costs to give them and education while also supporting all the other sports. I’d guess just as a business, football may not have that responsibility.
    Furthermore, I’d they were paid employees, schollys would have to be involved at all.
     
  9. CHFG8R

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    What are you even rambling about here? Seriously, I don't even know what point you're trying to make. In fact, you have a better chance of keeping ETN if there are less landing spots at other schools for ETN. Would UGA even bother with him (they do have some talent in the RB room) if they had to manage less spots? And ETN just proves my point. If UGA can snag him from us, what's keeping all D1 schools from just recruiting already developed players from mid and lesser-tier schools. Answer: NOTHING! ETN is just the start. This is going to be a regular thing, just like it is in European Soccer.
     
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  10. 62gator

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    I whole heartedly disagree with that, but I’m not a bacon boy. 85 is way too many, imho. 1/3 of the roster will never see the field and is a waste, they really don’t belong. If they truly want to play ball, they’ll go to where they can, at a lower level team or division. For the most part, the players that are ridiculously jumping around from P5 team to P5 team are the ones that aren’t playing. No one wants to sit for a year or two now, no one. Players want to play immediately, not all but most can.

    The best and quickest way to get better is to play in actual games, not practice, because of rule changes they don’t get all that much practice time now. Gone are the days of redshirting guys and then playing them mainly in their junior & senior years. By reducing the roster development will improve too, coaches will be able to focus on less guys and each will get far more time. Recruiting could also be improved by not having to find and bring in the bottom 25%. Costs across the board would be reduced. Again, FCS does just fine with 63, FBS does not need 85, it’s a waste, imho.
     
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  11. Wanne15

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    There may be some truth to that but I look at our roster and see guys that I’ve been here for a year or two and have not played and are about to play this year. there are also guys that have been a year or two that are in the portal because they still are not going to play next year.
    Then you have the guys like ETN and Presley that play a couple years and go somewhere else which really sucks
     
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    of course, the transferring is going to happen because the court took away the ability to make them stay.
     
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    You call me just a trainer, but I have seen first hand the lifelong damage the game has on the players. 99% of them will never see the NFL or any real money and end up leaving college with a worthless degree or non at all because it was the one the coaches told them to take to leave as much free time as possible to dedicate to football.

    So I have zero problem with players doing what they feel is best for themselves and taking everything that is offered to them.
     
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  14. Since I have nothing else to do during bowl season...

    1. Restrict transfers. Agree. I would tweak this to read "Replace National Letters of Intent (NLI) with bilateral contracts." Let the school and the athlete negotiate transfer conditions. Most athletes will insist on a clause that allows them to terminate the contract if the head coach or position coach is fired.

    2. Make verbal and written commitments illegal.
    Agree. See above: replace commitment via NLI with a notarized and signed version of a contract. To make things more interesting, get rid of national signing day and early signing day as a formality and allow athletes to sign those contracts at any time--and let the athlete keep it a secret between them and the school. Let each school set up a day where all the athletes go on TV and sign a symbolic contract in front of friends, family, and fans.

    3. Pay athletes directly through the NCAA and by grade. Disagree. Let the market forces decide the value of name, image, and likeness. The NCAA needs to work with the university presidents to establish recommended guidelines that work with the laws across all 50 states and irrespective of status as public or private university.

    4. Detach NIL from schools. Somewhat agree? Each school should have the opportunity to leverage its resources (endowments, boosters to specific sports, donors, rabid/rich fan base, etc) for NIL. If NIL were tied to the National Letter of Intent as described above that would take care of one NIL revenue stream. Non-school entities such as national brands, local businesses, etc should be free to also provide NIL opportunities that exist outside the span of control of the university. The mark of a good athletic director and the dozens of head coaches will be their ability to synchronize NIL opportunities with the coaches' priorities.
     
  15. CHFG8R

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    So, put yourself in a coach's shoes. Take a chance on an unproven HS player (who may jump to another school anyway) or go in for that So at Marshall who ended up being a lot better than people thought in HS? Pretty easy choice, right?
     
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    I get it, but the problem isn't the NCAA, but the simple fact this is the only sport where there is no pro alternative/path out of HS. In fact, the NFL has put rules in place to literally force the players into college. . . all while making more money than any other pro league in the world (by a large margin). To me, they're the ones doing the lion's share of exploitation here, not the NCAA.

    Oh, and those players. If they had to do it again, would they choose not to play football?
     
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    Good stuff, but the Jock Sniffers are NOT going to like this at all. They literally live for signing day.
     
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  18. chunks1

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    Billy is definitely not ahead on anything that has to do with winning.
     
  19. paidinfull

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    Separate the school from the team, you separate the money from the team too. You think the alumni pouring their money into the athletic department are going to continue to pour their money into a team that has no affiliation with the school?
     
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  20. paidinfull

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    Non school entities can already make deals with the athletes. It’s detached from the school by law already.
     
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