How did Jared Kushner get $2 billion from the Saudis?

Thank you mia culpa link has been fixed.

 

Do you have a credible source citing what was sold to who by Kushner and Ivanka or is this just hypothetical?

 

When your are king on the board concerning oil the Saudi's can choose whatever reason they want. Keeping the price of oil high is certainly in their best interest given the construction projects they have on the books. Whether their political stance concerning Ukraine and Russia will have any effect on the resorts and tourism remains to be seen,

 

Anyone who is even been basically following the US Saudi relationship knows it it has been problematic for little over 20 years, at a minimum. Sen. Bob Graham was really incensed at how well they were being protected on the 9/11 issue and wrote a "fictionalized" but called "The Kingdom" about it. Not well-written, but very revelatory.

Things really picked up with the Obama administration and the Arab spring issues, including not supporting Mubarak to the end. Then came the Houthis and the JCPOA that said, the core security relationship goes back almost 100 years and is so intertwined that it is literally unthinkable that the Saudis would act like this but for the way the relationship has deteriorated due to the prior administration and a certain son-in-law essentially persuading them that they don't need to deal with the current administration and that they can undermine the US interest at will. After all, the prior administration wasn't loyal to the US either.

The Saudis have agreed to pick up oil production many times that it was on in their short-term interest at US request. But now things are different. You can't lay all of it at Kushner's feet but he certainly played a big part

 

You caught me it's all hypothetical there is no one claiming that at the moment but the way this administration blames everyone else for their woes I wouldn't be surprised if it happens. All administrations fall into that abyss past, present and future administrations will continue to do it.

 

I happen to think it is not in our "interest" to bury the story of a country murdering a resident of our country for the crime of speaking out against a dictatorship for lower gas prices. Do you disagree?

 

So let me get this straight: you are willing to believe that a guy who has never been in government service was selling access to his father for a board seat but not willing to believe that the guy who was literally in charge of Middle Eastern foreign policy under Trump and suddenly walked out with $2 billion in funds for investment funds within a year of leaving that government service from Middle Eastern governments was likely corrupt in his usage of government policy?

 

Did I say the story shouldn't be told? No. Did I say we have to accept what was done? No. The bigger question is what course of action one can take in a dispute with another nation.

 

The problem actually is that they are now involved in our partisan politics, because the Trumps were willing to cover up minor issues like murder. The Saudis want those folks back for fairly obvious reasons (an America not always complaining about their human rights record because they aren't torturing a Trump themselves is of huge value to Saudi Arabia).

 

The United States has leverage over Saudi Arabia. But exercise it, the Administration must believe that they will not be undermined in the Senate when they pursue US interest. Unfortunately, loyalty to the United States is no longer assumed

 

Sorry but we involved in partisan politics with Saudi Arabia well before former President Trump cm on the scene. I might add President Biden was a part of that during his vice presidency and senate terms.

 

Shall we sanction their banks and cut them off from world trade? Perhaps we can confiscate their airplanes and personal assets. I think you would agree such a course od action would be over the top. Yet it can certainly viewed as any action taken would only serve to push Saudi Arabia ever closer to Russia and China.

 

How so? Be specific here.

 

You are listing potential leverage points to use against an adversary. Saudi Arabia is supposed to be an ally. Big difference. We have all types of interrelations that can be leveraged, especially in the security arena

 

LOL I wasn't asking you I was asking the poster who said "Kushner, Ivanka and Mnuchin made billions selling God knows what to middle eastern countries while serving in the White House."

 

I'm not willing to believe or disbelieve any of it.
I like some facts and substance before I assume guilt of any of these guys (and gals).
It's all pretty much supposition, until you find the smoking laptop.

 

When did that start? When somebody brought up a Republican? Because I strongly suspect that I could find some supposition related to Hunter Biden from you if I looked...

 

Partisan politics has played a role in dealing with Saudi Arabia for years. There is also the issue of Saudia Arabia and Yemen with US intervention. The house and senate went back and forth over that one.

This article December 2018 $650 million arms sale to the Saudi's
Senate rejects attempt to block Biden’s Saudi arms sale

 

It isn't right, but it has never been what you know, its who you know.

 

I don't believe Saudi Arabia views the US as an ally. There has been a major shit in foreign policy toward Saudi Arabia over the years.