How China's Military Views the United States

insuragator · Sep 3, 2024

@chem - no one on the planet can match our subs. They can unleash close to 4000 nukes at a moments notice. It is crazy with the mervs. From close friends they are no fun to serve on either, but they are insanely lethal.

chemgator · Sep 4, 2024

China is such a bad place to live that large numbers of Chinese are migrating to Mexico to work in restaurants because the economic opportunities are much better and they have freedom and independence in Mexico that they couldn't imagine in China. Some are leaving good-paying tech jobs in China, believe it or not. This is not going to help China's shrinking population problem, or their shrinking economic fortunes. This is why Chinese are sneaking across the border into the U.S. in large numbers.

Chinese migrants flock to Mexico in search of jobs, a future and, for some, a taste of freedom

MEXICO CITY (AP) — Despite her well-paying tech job, Li Daijing didn’t hesitate when her cousin asked for help running a restaurant in Mexico City. She packed up and left China for the Mexican capital last year, with dreams of a new adventure.

The 30-year-old woman from Chengdu, the Sichuan provincial capital, hopes one day to start an online business importing furniture from her home country.

“I want more,” Li said. “I want to be a strong woman. I want independence.”

Li is among a new wave of Chinese migrants who are leaving their country in search of opportunities, more freedom or better financial prospects at a time when China’s economy has slowed, youth unemployment rates remain high and its relations with the U.S. and its allies have soured.
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chemgator · Sep 4, 2024

insuragator said: ↑

@chem - no one on the planet can match our subs. They can unleash close to 4000 nukes at a moments notice. It is crazy with the mervs. From close friends they are no fun to serve on either, but they are insanely lethal.
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Let's hope we never have to use those nukes and see how lethal they are.

insuragator · Sep 5, 2024

chemgator said: ↑

Let's hope we never have to use those nukes and see how lethal they are.
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100 percent agree. My grandfather was in Okinawa and saw things he would not talk about. Hi next assignment was to gather info in Hiroshima. He said they still wore chemical suits 3 months later and really wanted us to know that. They are just evil. That was 15-20 KT's. Not Megatons. I hope one is never used again.

duggers_dad · Sep 5, 2024

insuragator said: ↑

@chem - no one on the planet can match our subs. They can unleash close to 4000 nukes at a moments notice. It is crazy with the mervs. From close friends they are no fun to serve on either, but they are insanely lethal.
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Murican bravado.

insuragator · Sep 5, 2024

Really Dugger

duggers_dad · Sep 5, 2024

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Really Dugger
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Really. I’ve known submariners. They’re competent people. But there is little objective basis for the claim that our subs are better than their subs and Russia, in particular, has more deployable nukes than we have and China is catching up at a dizzying pace.

It has been my consistent position that Russia and China have closed or eliminated the military gap and for that reason our government should aim to defuse tensions and learn to get along in the world.

Also, it is extremely doubtful that we could engage in a first strike strategy without being completely destroyed ourselves.

chemgator · Sep 5, 2024

insuragator said: ↑

Really Dugger
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I think he prefers you to use his Russian code name, which we believe is "Lee Harvey". He knows real live submariners, and therefore he can tell just by looking into their eyes (and possibly their ears and noses) just how good their submarines are compared to submarines from other countries. It's a gift. He can also bypass all of the literature available, and just rely on a Twitterer known as "Moon of Alabama" for his information, and possibly for his moonshine.

chemgator · Sep 6, 2024

China tells its young people to avoid on-line dating and western rock-n-roll music, as it could be a trap for them by western spies. Seems like this was the theme of a movie (or two) a long time ago. It will rot your brain, also, I believe.

China is telling Gen Zers to beware of online dating and rock music because they might be traps by spies or the West

Officials in China have been telling young people that spies or foreign powers could be out to trick them through casual activities such as online dating and listening to pop music.

National authorities raised these red flags at least twice recently, amid a wider push from China's leader, Xi Jinping, to bolster Chinese national security by getting citizens to be more proactive.

The South China Morning Post reported that a new foundational textbook for college students warned them about pop culture and rock 'n' roll as oft-used tools for foreign subversion.

The outlet reported that the book on national security told readers to watch out for the internet as a "key channel of communication," saying that "pop culture and rock music are often used as covers" for color revolutions.
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chemgator · Sep 6, 2024

Chinese students also have to be warned about "handsome guys" and "beautiful women" who might persuade them to spy against China. Good grief.

China warns students against 'beautiful women' and 'handsome guys' who might turn them into spies

HONG KONG — China’s main intelligence agency has a warning for young people: Beware of “handsome guys” and “beautiful women” looking to turn them into spies.

University students with access to classified or sensitive research data should especially guard against foreign intelligence agents who might try to lure them into false romantic relationships and then manipulate them into spying against China, the Ministry of State Security said Wednesday in a post on the social media platform WeChat.

The agency has published a series of such posts since launching its WeChat account last August, urging the public to be alert to all manner of foreign threats as Chinese leader Xi Jinping prioritizes the strengthening of national security.

China has been trading accusations of espionage with the United States and its allies amid tense relations between the world’s two largest economies. The Chinese agency’s latest warning comes as U.S. prosecutors allege that Linda Sun, a former top aide to New York Gov. Kathy Hochul, acted as a secret agent for the Chinese government.
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chemgator · Sep 6, 2024

China's "Hawaii" took a Cat. 4 typhoon this week. It's the world's second strongest storm so far this year.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/04/weather/china-typhoon-yagi-enteng-update-intl-hnk/index.html

One of this year’s most powerful storms slammed into the Chinese holiday island of Hainan on Friday, the strongest typhoon to make landfall there in 10 years.

Packing maximum sustained wind speeds of 230 kilometers per hour (140 miles per hour), Typhoon Yagi was the equivalent of a Category 4 hurricane – the world’s second most powerful tropical cyclone of 2024 so far, only eclipsed by the Atlantic hurricane Beryl which was a Category 5.

It later made landfall a second time on the southwestern end of Guangdong province and is expected to continue skirting China’s coastline before moving into northeastern Vietnam later Saturday.

More than a million people were evacuated to safer territory in Hainan and Guangdong while early reports from Chinese state media on Saturday morning reported many trees down and some local flooding. Some 830,000 households were left without electricity initially in the storm, although power has already been restored to 260,000 homes.
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duggers_dad · Sep 7, 2024

I remember an African dignitary lamenting “When China comes we get a hospital. When the US comes we get a lecture”

duggers_dad · Sep 7, 2024

China just leaving us in the dust. It’s comparing Georgia’s football program with ours …

chemgator · Sep 9, 2024

China's "Wolf Warrior" Minister has been demoted to publishing house clerk. This may be a good sign for U.S. - China relations.

Somebody has to take the blame for China's failing economy and poor position in world affairs, and it isn't going to be Chairman Xi.

China's 'wolf warrior' foreign minister is now working a lowly publishing role after falling foul of Xi: report

China's former foreign minister Qin Gang is working in a low-level publishing job after falling foul of China's leader Xi Jinping, The Washington Post reported.

Two US officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, told the publication that Qin was now listed as an employee at World Affairs Press, a publishing company associated with China's foreign ministry.

The officials reportedly told the publication that the demotion took place in spring. One characterized it as a "fall from grace" but also said, "he's off the hook."

"He's not going to jail, but his career is over," one source told the Post.

One of the officials told the outlet that the demotion is likely intended as a warning to others.
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duggers_dad · Sep 10, 2024

Fact Check: Damnable but True …

chemgator · Sep 10, 2024

China makes plans to insert a Communist Party spy in all western corporations with more than 300 employees doing business in China. It also gives China many new avenues to steal trade secrets and even exert control over a western corporation.

China poised to embed ‘Communist Party spies’ inside US firms — including Microsoft, critics warn

China’s government has positioned itself to embed “Communist Party spies” at Microsoft and other US companies that do business in the country — and further expose them to theft of trade secrets, employee poaching and even scary intimidation tactics, The Post has learned.

A new version of Beijing’s “company law” that took effect July 1 — a clampdown that has seen scant coverage in the Western press, according to experts — requires multinational firms with more than 300 workers in the country to appoint an “employee representative” to their China affiliate’s board of directors.

Sources tell The Post that the “representatives” are almost certain to be in regular contact with Chinese authorities — if not outright members of the Chinese Communist Party. That, in turn, would give Beijing a direct line into the sensitive internal workings of American firms.

The new rules, which can alternatively require that companies adopt a local supervisory board for workers, could also give the CCP frightening tools to exert control over US companies’ employees, according to US officials.
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duggers_dad · Sep 12, 2024

chemgator · Sep 12, 2024

U.S. Navy Seal Team 6 is preparing to defend Taiwan from Chinese invasion. This sounds kinda serious. I'm not sure China is prepared to deal with Seal Team 5, much less Seal Team 6. They probably thought they would get Boy Scout Otter Team 2 or something.

A Navy SEAL unit that killed Osama bin Laden is busy preparing for a possible Chinese invasion of Taiwan: report

A Navy SEAL unit that killed Osama bin Laden is busy preparing for a possible Chinese invasion of Taiwan, the Financial Times reported, citing people familiar with the preparations.

SEAL Team 6, an elite military special missions unit, has spent more than a year planning and training for a potential Chinese invasion of the island at its Dam Neck base in Virginia Beach, per the FT.

The unit's contingency plans — in keeping with most of its missions — are highly classified. People familiar with its planning did not provide details to the FT about what specific missions it is preparing for.

While SEAL Team 6's official purpose is to test, evaluate, and develop technology and tactics for all naval special warfare forces, it is "unofficially" involved in sensitive missions around the world.
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chemgator · Sep 12, 2024

China responds by saying that it will crush America's pawns on the chess board of life. I'm not sure they understand this modern warfare thing. But it is very bold talk from a country that has not won a war involving naval assets in over 400 years.

US Navy Seal unit that killed Osama bin Laden training to help Taiwan in case of China invasion

The secret training exercises by the Navy special forces team, tasked with some of the military’s most sensitive and difficult missions, appear to be part of a wider deterrence strategy to give China pause for thought about the high costs of trying to forcibly seize the democracy of 23.5 million.

The reports from the Financial Times emerged as China warned it would “crush” any foreign forces who enter what it considers its sovereign territory, which includes much of the South China Sea and Taiwan.

On Thursday, a senior Beijing military official said on the sidelines of a defence forum: “If the United States moves its pawns behind the scenes, if it pushes countries to the front line, or if the United States itself ends up on the front line, then we in the Chinese People’s Liberation Army... will never have any patience.

“We in the Chinese People’s Liberation Army will resolutely crush any foreign hostile encroachment on China’s territorial, sovereign and maritime rights and interests with firm determination, staunch will, strong capability and effective means.”
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chemgator · Sep 15, 2024

By the end of this year, China will have more pets than toddlers. Many younger people are giving up on the idea of having kids, and quite a few think that a pet is a good substitute for a family. It is much cheaper, and does not require a marriage. China's natural population growth rate (number of births minus number of deaths per thousand people) is now -1.48, down from +7.5 in 2012. This indicates both an aging population and a lack of births. Twenty years ago, the idea of owning a pet was considered a "bourgeois concept" for countries corrupted by wealth.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/12/busi...toddlers-aging-population-intl-hnk/index.html

Goldman found pet food to be one of the fastest growing consumer sectors in China, which is expanding despite otherwise anemic spending. Sales grew an average of 16% each year between 2017 and 2023, creating a $7 billion industry. The industry’s value is expected to surge to $12 billion in 2030, the report added. At its most optimistic, pet food could become a $15 billion industry in China in six years.

It’s a far cry from just two decades ago, when pet ownership was still considered a bourgeois concept and people kept mixed breeds as guard dogs.

And even now, pet ownership remains comparatively low, according to Goldman Sachs. Last year, the percentage of dog-keeping households in Chinese cities stood at 5.6%, significantly lower than its neighbors and giving it room to grow, it said. Japan reached 17.5% in 2009, according to the report.

Its predictions for babies were less rosy. The report projected the number of new births in China to contract at an average annual rate of 4.2% between 2022 and 2030 because of a decline of women in the 20 to 35 age group, as well as young people’s reluctance to have children.
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