How China's Military Views the United States

duggers_dad · Oct 12, 2022

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Taiwan has not belonged to China in over 100 years. Japan has a more recent claim on Taiwan, as they took over the island from 1905 to 1945. Taiwan has functioned as an independent country since 1945, governing itself with no help from China or anyone else. If Taiwan is independent, then by definition they cannot secede from another country. Unless, of course, you have some propaganda you'd like to share that explains this conundrum.
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Ukraine is not even a real country. Point is that residents of the now annexed oblasts have been under seize, by Ukrainian forces for years. Again, this war is 30 some Western nations fighting to prevent besieged residents, of said oblasts, from defending themselves against the Ukrainians.

chemgator · Oct 12, 2022

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Ukraine is not even a real country. Point is that residents of the now annexed oblasts have been under seize, by Ukrainian forces for years. Again, this war is 30 some Western nations fighting to prevent besieged residents, of said oblasts, from defending themselves against the Ukrainians.
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Do you ever stay on topic?

duggers_dad · Oct 13, 2022

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Do you ever stay on topic?
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I stay on hypocrisy.

chemgator · Oct 15, 2022

duggers_dad said: ↑

I stay on hypocrisy.
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We have noticed that theme in your writing. Do you find it hypocritical for someone to live in a country and despise every single policy and decision that the country makes? Shouldn't someone who hates their country live in another country?

chemgator · Oct 15, 2022

This is a bold move: protesters in Beijing hung a banner critical of Chairman Xi from a bridge.

Unusually bold public dissent comes before Xi Jinping’s pivotal Party Congress meeting

Chinese authorities have censored a rare protest in Beijing that took place just days before Sunday’s convening of the 20th Party Congress, a pivotal twice-a-decade meeting where president Xi Jinping is expected to cement an unprecedented third term as the nation’s leader.

Photos and videos circulating online show that two red-character banners were unfurled over the railing of an overpass in Beijing’s Haidian district on Thursday (Oct. 13), criticizing the country’s strongman leader and ongoing covid restrictions.
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“Go on strike at school and work, remove dictator and national traitor Xi Jinping,” said one banner in an unusually direct address, while the other read: “We want food, not PCR tests. We want freedom, not lockdowns. We want respect, not lies. We want reform, not a Cultural Revolution. We want a vote, not a leader. We want to be citizens, not slaves.”

Videos show police removing the banners, and some images seem to indicate the protester was taken by authorities, although there has been no official confirmation of an arrest. Censorship has also moved online, with posts containing words like “Beijing,” “brave,” and “bridge” being removed as the Chinese government seeks to rein in the national conversation during a time of heightened political sensitivity.
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With as many cameras as China has in its cities, I'm surprised no one has been arrested yet.

I would be curious to know what the Chinese Politburo thinks of the Ukraine War, and whether they should continue on the path that Xi is taking them on with regard to encouraging nationalism, building up the military, and invading Taiwan. They may be as afraid of Xi as Russian "leaders" are afraid of Putin.

tampagtr · Oct 15, 2022

Interesting video. It’s from a CCP source but it was endorsed by Victor Shih, which is how it showed up in my Twitter feed. I trust Victor after reading him over the years.

A good explainer on the upcoming Congress. But at the 57 second mark, they show a hammer and sickle symbol. I had no idea the CCP was still using the hammer and sickle. Edited. Duh. It’s still in the flag. But I guess it was just trying to see it standing alone

chemgator · Oct 15, 2022

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Interesting video. It’s from a CCP source but it was endorsed by Victor Shih, which is how it showed up in my Twitter feed. I trust Victor after reading him over the years.

A good explainer on the upcoming Congress. But at the 57 second mark, they show a hammer and sickle symbol. I had no idea the CCP was still using the hammer and sickle. Edited. Duh. It’s still in the flag. But I guess it was just trying to see it standing alone
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The Chinese flag is red, but there is a large star in the corner with four smaller stars to the right. No hammer and sickle. I think you are remembering the old flag of the USSR.

Chinese:

USSR:

tampagtr · Oct 15, 2022

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The Chinese flag is red, but there is a large star in the corner with four smaller stars to the right. No hammer and sickle. I think you are remembering the old flag of the USSR.

Chinese:

USSR:

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It's on some of their flags. After I posted, I did a Google search and it came up on some of their flags which is why I edited my post with a duh. But it was still surprising to see it in the video in 2022.

defensewinschampionships · Oct 16, 2022

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The Chinese flag is red, but there is a large star in the corner with four smaller stars to the right. No hammer and sickle. I think you are remembering the old flag of the USSR.

Chinese:

USSR:

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Both flags represent oppression of the people by the ruling class.

tampagtr · Oct 16, 2022

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Both flags represent oppression of the people by the ruling class.
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Agreed.

chemgator · Oct 16, 2022

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Both flags represent oppression of the people by the ruling class.
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They would argue that it means sacrificing for the greater good (which is the opposite side of the coin). The truth lies somewhere in between.

tampagtr · Oct 17, 2022

Noah Smith on Xi’s incompetent heavy handedness and ultimate Chinese stagnation

By reorganizing the CCP as an extension of his person, Xi puts all that in jeopardy. Rewarding loyalty over competence degrades the quality of top personnel. Eliminating competing factions robs decisions of needed criticism and consensus. And centralizing power in the hands of one man mean that that man’s mistakes become national failures.

Already, the mistakes have begun piling up. Growth, especially all-important productivity growth, slowed a lot even before Covid and has now basically halted. The crash is due largely to Xi Jinping’s personal choices — his stubborn insistence on Zero Covid (which also has a dimension of social control), his willingness to let the vast real estate sector crash, and his crackdown on tech companies and other entrepreneurs. Overseas, Xi’s signature Belt and Road project has left a trail of uneconomical infrastructure, debt, and bad feelings around the world. His aggressive “wolf warrior” diplomacy, combined with his crackdown on Hong Kong and his use of concentration camps and totalitarian surveillance in Xinjiang, has soured much of the world on the prospect of Chinese leadership. And his promise of a “no limits” partnership with Russia blew up in his face when Putin bungled the invasion of Ukraine. Even Xi’s nationalized industrial policy — the Made in China 2025 initiative and the more recent push for semiconductor dominance — has not done much to accelerate growth, and has prompted the U.S. and other countries to switch from engagement to outright economic warfare.

Xi Jinping, forever

duggers_dad · Oct 17, 2022

There are lots of things I find wrong with China. Chief among them: it’s hysterical Zero Covid strategy.

But basically, China and the US are two nations headed in opposite directions.

defensewinschampionships · Oct 17, 2022

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They would argue that it means sacrificing for the greater good (which is the opposite side of the coin). The truth lies somewhere in between.
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The answer isn't anywhere between oppression and "sacrifice".

duggers_dad · Oct 17, 2022

Murica!

chemgator · Oct 17, 2022

Chinese consulate employees in England give a protester a severe beating. There will be no pro-democracy protests on the consulate grounds. So much for soft diplomacy.

Watch: Hong Kong protester 'beaten up at Chinese consulate in Manchester'

A Hong Kong pro-democracy protester was apparently beaten inside the grounds of the Chinese consulate in Manchester on Sunday, according to footage circulating on social media.

Video footage appeared to show a man being assaulted as police officers tried to break up the chaotic scenes on Sunday afternoon.

Iain Duncan Smith, the former Tory leader, told The Telegraph that the Chinese embassy must issue a "full apology" over the incident and said the individuals involved should be expelled from the UK.

He said: "I will certainly raise this in the House. It's very simple - that is unacceptable, those individuals need to be sent home and there needs to be a full and unabashed apology from the Chinese ambassador because it's absolutely appalling."
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chemgator · Oct 17, 2022

China is facing a massive local gov't debt crisis to the tune of $8 trillion. Beijing may have to respond with a federal gov't bailout. China is having economic problems on several fronts: collapsing real estate market, factories not producing due to Covid, blowback from Taiwan policy offending international customers, etc.

China is facing a full-blown debt crisis with $8 trillion at risk as Xi Jinping eyes an unprecedented 3rd term

A local-government debt crisis is getting worse in China, as the property market simultaneously crashes and Beijing contends with the reverberations of its zero-COVID policies.

About $8 trillion of debt has piled up from so-called local government financing vehicles (LGFV), which China has used to pay for infrastructure projects and spur growth since the Great Financial Crisis.

Bonds issued by LGFVs, however, are at risk of defaulting and pose another threat to President Xi Jinping as he pursues an unprecedented third term at the 20th National Congress of the Chinese Communist Party, which began on Sunday.

Experts think Beijing will have to step in with a bailout as officials try to prevent an already-slowing economy from deteriorating further.
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chemgator · Oct 17, 2022

An interesting article that indicates that China's "walled-in" policies (including zero-Covid) will isolate it long-term from the outside world and possibly further weaken the economy. It could also lead to more nationalism and confrontation with other countries.

'Walled-in' China under Xi Jinping poses long-term global challenges | CNN

The Chinese economic slowdown poses a massive political challenge for Xi, whose party’s legitimacy in the past few decades has relied on rapid growth and rising incomes for 1.4 billion people. It’s also a harsh reality check for the international community: the world’s longtime growth engine is sputtering, just as the prospect of a global recession emerges.

But Xi’s costly “zero-Covid” intransigence is a natural outcome of the unprecedented amount of power he has amassed. For many Chinese officials, this policy is less about science and more about political loyalty to the country’s most powerful leader in decades.

Online videos abound of local health workers swabbing fruits, animals and even shoes for Covid testing despite the absence of sound scientific basis. China’s only Covid-related deaths in September were 27 people who were killed when their bus crashed on its way to a quarantine facility. Still, officials nationwide have doubled down on enforcing draconian rules, especially ahead of the party congress, helped by the world’s most sophisticated surveillance technologies.
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This potent mix of propaganda and control under Xi appears to have had its desired effect on a large segment of Chinese society, creating a buffer for the leadership by convincing enough people of the superiority of China’s system even as millions of their fellow countrymen grow resentful of “zero-Covid.” But this approach, combined with prolonged border closure and escalating geopolitical tensions, also provides fertile ground for xenophobia.
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tampagtr · Oct 18, 2022

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Chinese consulate employees in England give a protester a severe beating. There will be no pro-democracy protests on the consulate grounds. So much for soft diplomacy.

Watch: Hong Kong protester 'beaten up at Chinese consulate in Manchester'
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Yeah that beyond the pale

chemgator · Oct 22, 2022

Interesting news from China's CP Congress. Former chairman Hu Jintao, age 79, was forcibly removed from the meeting, not for anything he said or did, but apparently to send a message that the dictator will not tolerate even former party leaders to share his spotlight. Quite an ego the current chairman has. China censored this out of all news within China. It would be more auspicious to keep this a secret--could affect the feng shui of the congress.

Chinese ex-President Hu Jintao escorted out of party congress

BEIJING (Reuters) - Chinese former President Hu Jintao was unexpectedly escorted out of the closing ceremony of a congress of the ruling Communist Party on Saturday.

Hu, 79, Xi Jinping's immediate predecessor, was seated to the left of Xi. He was led off the stage of the main auditorium of the Great Hall of the People in Beijing by two stewards, a Reuters witness at the congress said.

Video footage published by AFP showed a steward repeatedly trying to lift Hu from his seat, drawing concerned looks from officials seated nearby. Hu then put his hand on Xi's folder, and then Xi put his hand on the folder.

China's top legislator Li Zhanshu, seated to Hu's right, gave the former president's folder to a steward, wiping his own head with a cloth after Hu finally stood up.
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Xi is turning out to be quite the drama queen.

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