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How China's Military Views the United States

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by chemgator, Jun 18, 2020.

  1. chemgator

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    Apparently, China gets its military technology by getting Chinese scientists placed in the top U.S. national laboratories, and then lures them back to China to develop weapons for them. This includes things like hypersonic missiles. The Chinese scientists sell out their adopted country for a million dollars. Why would we hire Chinese nationals to work in these laboratories?

    Scientists at America’s top nuclear lab were recruited by China to design missiles and drones, report says

     
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    How did they get ahead of us in hypersonics ?
     
  3. Crusher

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    Don't fool yourself about that.
     
  4. duggers_dad

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    I don’t think our navy is fooled about it. Why else would the Ronald Reagan task force have hid, behind the Philippines, when China was doing everything short of invading Taiwan after the Pelosi visit ?
     
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  5. chemgator

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    China's latest move: dump dollars and buy yuan, to prop up the Chinese currency. The yuan was trading at about 6 yuan per dollar several years ago, but is down to about 7.2 yuan per dollar at the moment. There is speculation that this indicates that China's economy is not doing very well, and their businesses have too much debt, and too little income.

    China tells state banks to prepare for a massive dollar dump and yuan buying spree as Beijing's prior interventions have failed to stem its currency's worst year since 1994

     
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  7. duggers_dad

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    My primary beef with China is the way it practically goaded the rest of the world into lockdowns. That said, it’s not China’s fault that we became China.
     
  8. chemgator

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    Almost every country in the world had some kind of lockdown at some point during Covid. And I don't think China was the first to implement lockdowns (although encasing their towns in a brick wall was innovative, if not excessive, on their part). Their original response to Covid was to deny that it was contagious (while they stocked up on masks and other medical supplies).
     
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    No such thing as contagion. Except a contagion of fear. The US was every bit as totalitarian as was totalitarian China. Perhaps more so since China employed regional lockdowns.
     
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  11. chemgator

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    Confucius say, education not important, getting access to western technology and promoting Silk Road projects is.

    Confucius Institutes in universities ‘part of Party’s propaganda system’, think tank finds

     
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    An Indian dignitary recently remarked, “When China visits, we get a hospital. When the US visits, we get a lecture.”
     
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  13. chemgator

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    China needs to donate things to their neighbors to keep them from being pissed off at the border disputes that arise from having China as a neighbor. Because China will steal your land if they can. There was a big fight not long ago between Indian and Chinese troops at the border in the Himalayas.
     
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    Yes, India has its version and China has its version. Irony: Russia is bringing China and India into the same orbit.
     
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    Not quite the right word.
     
  16. chemgator

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    An interesting article on why the U.S. should help defend Taiwan. In summary, if China is allowed to start taking over their neighbors in Asia, they will dominate the global economy, enabling them to increase military spending far beyond what the U.S. could keep up with, and make the world a much more dangerous place.

    Why Protecting Taiwan Really Matters to the U.S.

    China already believes that all of the fish in the sea belong to them; how would they feel about natural resources if they were the most powerful nation in the world? Communist governments, with a little economic success, can easily convince themselves that they can become a great colonial power if they could only take some resources from their neighbors.
     
  17. chemgator

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    There was a little sarcasm in there. :)
     
  18. duggers_dad

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    US wants to help Taiwan to secede. Aided in shelling Ukrainian oblasts that wanted to secede.
     
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    And this is why they made so many "loans" in Africa that are secured by infrastructure and nat resources. They bribe the politicians and then import chinese labor and materials and build substandard infrastructure that falls apart saddling the countries with massive debt. Control the debt secured by the resources, control the country without ever firing a shot.
     
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  20. chemgator

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    Taiwan has not belonged to China in over 125 years. Japan has a more recent claim on Taiwan, as they took over the island from 1905 to 1945. Taiwan has functioned as an independent country since 1945, governing itself with no help from China or anyone else. If Taiwan is independent, then by definition they cannot secede from another country. Unless, of course, you have some propaganda you'd like to share that explains this conundrum.
     
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