How a 2024 announcement would immediately impact Trump and whether it would clear the GOP field

SCOTUS has held several times that the enumerated qualifications for federal office are exclusive and that states can't add any other requirements/disqualifying factors. This is why term limits are unlawful as well.

 

Come on Trump we're rooting for you to become the GOP nominee

 

Perhaps in a head to head, but if you have 5 people on the ballot then Trump wins

 

The blame for disappointing repub election results is on crazy maga candidates and Dear Leader. Dems will now maintain final senate control as a result. They should have lost it. And the 174 of 183 endorsed candidates won, is that per Dear Leader? He changed his choice on some candidates mid race. Maybe check into that stat. He is a well known liar.

During midterms, dems backed crazy maga candidates in repub primary because they gave dem candidates a better chance in general election. And they were correct. Now, the best thing that can happen for dem 2024 presidential run is trump wins the nom. People are tired of hearing about trumps big lie. Biden crushed him in 2020. Dems on 2024 trump nom - “don’t throw me in the briar patch”.

desantis however is a different story. But I’m not sure desantis can beat the trump cult following.

 

I appreciate the sentiment, but I don't want Trump anywhere near our elections, ever again. We barely survived the last encounter with that sociopath.

 

Do not believe that Ron will run even if he can beat Don for the nomination. The adage "never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it" comes to mind. Repeating what I said in several other posts, Donald Trump doesn't care about the Republican Party, he only cares about Donald Trump. If he doesn't get the party's nomination in 2024 he will blowup the party before endorsing the party's nominee. Trump as a third party/independent candidate can draw enough voters in from the GOP in swing states to give the election to the Democratic nominee most likely Biden and even if he doesn't run he will almost certainly claim that he lost the nomination as the result of voter fraud in the Republican primaries in effect depressing of the vote of his supporters in the general election. A loss whether in the general election or for the nomination could taint DeSantis in the future. If he serves two full terms as governor he would undoubtedly be the favorite for the nomination in 2028 and at 50 years old would still be far and away the youngest presidential candidate since Barack Obama in 2008.

 

Not really, but there's some guidance here. There's a reason Agnew resigned first. Because if Nixon had resigned first, America would've been left with a VP ascending to the Presidency who was about to be indicted. So the Feds convinced him to plead guilty on a single count and cleared the field for Ford to replace him and Nixon to follow Agnew with his resignation.

Vice President Agnew resigns

 

Not really. Scholars don’t think that law would stand on any sort of appeal.

 

I’ll risk it. Convict him of it anyway.

 

This. Not worth the risk.

 

Republican leadership/donors can make that difficult and should.

 

I always thought that was true, but some are saying he can still run even if convicted of a felony. I think the law is you can't run again if you were previously impeached. Anyone want to clear this up?

 

Who specifically are the RINOs you’re referencing? I’m assuming you don’t think DeSanctimonious is a RINO?

 

If it's another clown car, like DeSantis, Cruz, Haley, Scott, Pense all get in, that favors Trump much more than a one on one with DeSantis. Trumpsters are gonna Trump, while the rest of the candidates divide the vote. That's what happened in 2016, and got Trump off to a good start.

 

Uhhh the double negative is confusing me. So you think he’s a RINO? Just want to have you on record before he attacks your boy for the first time.

 

I don't think the American people like "January 6th" as an ongoing campaigning issue for Democrats against Republicans.

But I think that just may change if Trump is on the ballot.

I happen to think that America's institutions are strong and would overcome even a second term of Trump's worst excesses, but a lot of people don't think like me.

I'm a fan of Judge Luttig's suggestion to enact federal legislation clarifying the Vice President's role in counting electors as ceremonial, in other words, the Vice President does not have the authority to determine which votes are legitimate and illegitimate.

I'm also a fan of imposing federal deadlines to vote-counting to avoid situations where either party knows exactly how many votes are necessary to win. Some posters here may think that's throwing a bone at Republicans, and it partially is, but the way I see it, it also prevents situations where candidates can call up the Governor of a state to try and pull shenanigans in "finding" votes or "dumping" votes. It leaves less room for strategically gaming the system because neither side knows exactly what they need until the game is already over.

 

If Republicans know what's good for them, they'll put their egos aside, rally behind one candidate against Trump to make sure the Republican Party wins the White House in 2024.

If it's the entire field versus Trump in 2024, Republicans will once again be their own worst enemy, and the country will be worse off for it.

 

Impeachment alone is not enough, Trump would have had to be convicted and barred from holding public office in the future (which could have happened, but it didn't).