House GOP passes Israel aid bill offset by IRS funding cuts

Govt 'budget experts'...that's some funny shit right there.

 

huh huh huh yeah man, it’s some funny shit. I ain’t going pay no taxes that way. huh huh huh

 

Admittedly, my worldview has it that the amount of energy we spend on beating the other political side is harmful to society, but I think many religions and moral traditions would agree that selflessness is virtue. I would be very impressed to see either side propose cuts to one of their own favored initiatives to help others.

 

Then cut spending. Taxation is a racket perpetrated by the best organized mob in human history.

 

That's a pretty naive take when one party is clearly far worse for our country than the other. Take this issue. One party wants to provide aid to Israel, but only if they can make it easier for rich people to cheat on their taxes. The other party wants to provide aid to Israel and make it harder for rich people to cheat on their taxes. Which side do you choose?

 

Funny how the GOP now wants to cut spending. Let's stop spending money on the subsidies for the wealthy. Repeal the tax cut dear leader passed, it's already about to disappear for the middle class. Why can't we make it disappear for corporations and billionaires?

 

I actually agree with you. The largest transfer of wealth in the history of humankind is taking place right now. From the taxpayer, to the military industry, to the pharmaceutical companies, to the tech companies, to the energy companies.

 

No doubt I am gravely naive. That said, Im always curious about how we determine who should be the arbiter of moral superiority?

To your point, what I question are our end goals. Is our end goal to do good? Or is it to beat the other side? Clearly many of us view these as the same question, but it is my claim that only the first is worthy goal. The second leads almost invariably to escalation of tribal battles and the justification of actions that conflict with goal 1.

Lastly, if it matters, you should be able to read into my posts here that I am currently taking aim at the side you believe to be morally inferior.

 

One team buys you flowers and candy before they screw you over. The other team beats you up before they screw you over. Pretty obvious choice.

 

It started back during the Obama years when the radical right wing accused Obama of using the IRS to target radical right wing businesses

 

He didn't mention morality? Stating that a political preference is "better for the country" I don't think is some claim of moral superiority, though I will take the point that some people take it to that level when they get high on their own supply. I think the Democrats are certainly "better" for the country than Republicans in that they aren't actively hostile to the idea of governing itself, but its not saying much when the argument is over clean or contingent funding for a war killing civilians. I dont think there is anything moral about assisting ethnic cleansing, fomenting global instability, selling weapons of war, etc.

 

Lol...How is spending more on more ferderal workers... going to lower our deficit?

 

The same way adding more workers to factory not at capacity ultimately brings in more revenue. IRS agents collect taxes from tax cheats, and the average IRS worker brings in much more than his/her salary. There is a point of diminishing returns with IRS agents, as there is with any employee, but considering the ratio of IRS workers to taxpayers was at its historical low recently, that tells us we can afford to hire more IRS workers and have it be revenue positive.

 

Yeah, and the Loonytoons leftists believe that... That's the sad part.

Don't forget that these 100,000 "IRS" agents are armed and dangerous. The Dems have lost all credibility on politics, and they can't even add and subtract as well as a 5th grader.

 

Let’s get rid of all the IRS agents and see what happens to tax revenue. If less is better then zero is the best, right?

 

Don't forget that these 100,000 "IRS" agents are armed and dangerous. The Dems have lost all credibility on politics, and they can't even add and subtract as well as a 5th grader.[/QUOTE]

Halleluiah, right wingers now believe guns to be dangerous.

 

I believe Israel should defense itself but just like I don’t want to send money to Ukraine, I don’t want money going to Israel.
Why are we the worlds piggy bank when we have so many problems with money here….

 

IRS added how many agents and yet receipts for 2023 is estimated to be less than 2022?

Currently down almost 500 billion from the same time in 2022
https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/ame...federal revenue,has decreased by $457 billion.

 

You figure the only determinant of federal revenues is how many IRS agents there are?

 

I was reading morals into that post, but perhaps I should have said “normatively superior”. Clearly most of us see one side as superior to the other, but at least part of this is value based. And another part is clearly just bias.

Im probably more willing than most to accept the moral foundations of both parties as legitimate, but I still wont accept “beating the other side” as a virtuous goal. And this seems to be main platform for the Republicans currently.