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House Covid-19 panel releases final report criticizing public health response to the pandemic

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by OklahomaGator, Dec 5, 2024.

  1. duggers_dad

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    Sometimes I feel like a lone visitor to the zoo.
     
  2. vegasfox

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    I have more evidence to show I'm right but why quibble over definitions?

    The bottom line for a lot of us was we didn't want to take a new technology that makes our own bodies manufacture a toxic protein.
     
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  3. AzCatFan

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    No. You're wrong. And the protein your body creates isn't toxic. It's an antibody that the body uses to fight off COVID-19. It's the same antibody your body would make if and when it encounters COVID-19 itself. Just like the MMR vaccine causes your body to create antibodies for mumps, measles, and rubella.
     
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  4. duggers_dad

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    No evidence for specific antibodies. The body works as a unit to expel toxins. Sometimes in painful fashion. And when the vaccinee declares “It hurts so good!” that is like his/her body’s reaction to the trauma which is the shot.
     
  5. vegasfox

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    The mRNA tech makes your body create a close approximation of the coronavirus spike protein. Both spike proteins have 7 locations that have prion-like activity, for example (remember the prions that caused mad cow disease?).

    You don't seem to have a good feel for science. Just one of dozens of articles I could pull up for you:

    Spikeopathy’: COVID-19 Spike Protein Is Pathogenic, from Both Virus and Vaccine mRNA
    ‘Spikeopathy’: COVID-19 Spike Protein Is Pathogenic, from Both Virus and Vaccine mRNA - PMC
     
  6. AzCatFan

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    Easily debunked. Spikeopathy could explain long COVID. Which is far more likely to occur after infection, because infection means the virus is replicating itself millions of times. Thus, the body needs to create many more antibodies. But from the vaccine?

    Much less likely to happen. As this paper shows, long COVID occurred in about 10% in unvaccinated, but only 3.5% in vaccinated.

    The only way to avoid the potential for spikeopathy from COVID is avoiding the virus completely. Highly unlikely to happen. Want to lower your risk? Get vaccinated.
     
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  7. duggers_dad

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    Long Covid is as prevalent as Long Unicorn Dander Infestation.
     
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  8. vegasfox

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    Not sure what you think you debunked
     
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  9. AzCatFan

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    Spikeopathy caused by vaccine being dangerous. Even if it is, all data shows infection to be more dangerous without vaccination. And unless you wish to live in a cave and avoid all humanity, you will be exposed to COVID. Best be prepared.
     
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    The irony is that it is Covidians like yourself who regard others as potentially deadly disease vectors. If the case, what else is there to do but hide in caves ?
     
  11. vegasfox

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    The vax might have helped some (people over 80 according to 1 study) but was net negative for other groups.

    Democrats wanted to lock down sparsely populated beaches and make people go home and hang out with others (who might have been infected).

    The vax didn't prevent infection. It did mean you were 100% going to be exposed to a toxic spike protein.
     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    How many are going to fall for it in 2025 ?

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  13. AzCatFan

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    The billions of jabs and data that goes with it proves you wrong. Look at hospitalization and deaths, by age and vaccination status. In every age group over 12, vaccines clearly lowered risk of hospitalization and death. Under 12, lower hospitalization rates are clear.

    Again, even your links show the same spikeopathy from both infection and vaccine. That's because both the vaccine and COVID contain the exact same mRNA strand that triggers the immune response. The only way to ever avoid your body from responding is to guarantee yourself from ever being exposed to the virus. Good luck with that.

    The best option? Lower your risks of getting sick, getting long COVID, being hospitalized, or dying all by getting vaccinated. Billions of data points from around the globe are hard to ignore. Unless you are a scientific ignoramus.
     
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  14. duggers_dad

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    I’ve repeatedly explained how the CDC cooked the books to prop up the vaccines.
     
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    This morning my wife’s primary care doctor (mine too) told her we didn’t need covid shots as it’s effects are mild and they may be more harm than good. We are 70 and 71.
     
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    The only reason anyone would need a Covid shot is if there was such a thing as Covid.
     
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    Thankfully the current strain is nowhere near as deadly as the original strains
     
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    Vaxxers depicted …

     
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    This reminds me of a lot of people on too hot LOL.

     
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  20. duggers_dad

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    The societal evil that springs from the medieval notion that people are deadly disease vectors.