Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!
  1. Hi there... Can you please quickly check to make sure your email address is up to date here? Just in case we need to reach out to you or you lose your password. Muchero thanks!

Home Depot's co-founder says the rise of 'socialism' is making people too lazy, fat and stupid to wo

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by studegator, Jun 10, 2023.

  1. l_boy

    l_boy 5500

    13,021
    1,742
    3,268
    Jan 6, 2009
    So what? Cut supply, increase demand, prices rise, profits go up. It’s not a conspiracy. It’s economics.
     
  2. Spurffelbow833

    Spurffelbow833 GC Hall of Fame

    9,632
    767
    1,293
    Jan 9, 2009
    Because your approval means everything to us. I'm gonna go cry now.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  3. AndyGator

    AndyGator GC Hall of Fame

    3,598
    352
    338
    Apr 10, 2007
    I didn’t realize you had stopped crying
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
    • Wish I would have said that Wish I would have said that x 1
  4. G8tas

    G8tas GC Hall of Fame

    4,683
    941
    453
    Sep 22, 2008
    Shame on Biden
     
    • Off-topic Off-topic x 1
  5. murphree_hall

    murphree_hall VIP Member

    9,222
    4,610
    2,898
    Jul 11, 2019
    As far as effort, like I said, in the military you largely get paid the same as the next guy, yet there is plenty of other incentive to work hard.

    Anyways, this went over your head. I’m not talking about individual performance at work when I say working themselves to death. I’m talking about working too many hours or multiple jobs just to make ends meet.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  6. AgingGator

    AgingGator GC Hall of Fame

    3,884
    835
    2,088
    Apr 24, 2007
    Yes, it was ignored because without the government liquidity those profits wouldn’t have been increasing
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  7. AgingGator

    AgingGator GC Hall of Fame

    3,884
    835
    2,088
    Apr 24, 2007
    I do
     
  8. AgingGator

    AgingGator GC Hall of Fame

    3,884
    835
    2,088
    Apr 24, 2007
    You are correct.

    Now, Why do you think the bean counter’s math worked? A lower discount rate in the business case calculations give a better return. Better return brings more investment.

    So they could basically borrow free money to buy up massive amounts of real estate that they can now rent out at positive cash flows and ridiculous profit. They flip the less desirable properties to get all of their own investment back out. All legal, damn smart, and all possible because government intervened and and made it possible. Just like the housing bust.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  9. AzCatFan

    AzCatFan GC Hall of Fame

    12,209
    1,157
    1,618
    Apr 9, 2007
    World-wide inflation with COVID averaged around 8%. US inflation hit right around the average. The stimulus likely added to the inflation numbers, but the money also helped a lot of families stay afloat during the worst global pandemic in over a century. There is no winning during a global pandemic. Only mitigation and hope.

    As for immigrants, they are, for the most part, a commodity. We should allow for supply to meet demand with a guest worker program. We haven't had anything like this since the Bracero Program ended in 1964. The result is we had over 1 million undocumented immigrants apply for asylum under Reagan, and today, about 8 million currently in our work force.

    And not all of them work under-the-table for no taxes. Undocumented immigrants can file income taxes under an ITIN, and in 2019, over 2 million people filed income tax returns with an ITIN. Yes, enforcing all immigrants to work legally and pay taxes might result in some inflation, but still better than the alternative. Which is what Florida is now experience, as they didn't learn from Alabama, Georgia, and Arizona. Immigration shortages also drive inflation, and at a greater rate than increasing wages to make sure they are all getting legal pay.

    Last, if you are worried about having too many immigrants during the next recession, that shouldn't be a concern. No supply of jobs, and many immigrants will return home. Happened during the last recession, and between 2009 and 2014, there was a net negative of nearly 150,000 immigrants from Mexico alone. Labor, like most markets, generally self regulate.
     
  10. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

    17,612
    2,861
    1,618
    Apr 3, 2007
     
    • Like Like x 1
  11. Sohogator

    Sohogator GC Hall of Fame

    3,568
    576
    358
    Aug 22, 2012
    What were profit margins?
     
  12. Sohogator

    Sohogator GC Hall of Fame

    3,568
    576
    358
    Aug 22, 2012
    Wut?
     
  13. mrhansduck

    mrhansduck GC Hall of Fame

    4,865
    1,002
    1,788
    Nov 23, 2021
    I don't know if he's including people who aren't working at all. But from what I can tell, Americans work more hours than employees in other developed countries. If Americans are lazy, I'm not sure who he's comparing us to. Guys who make billions and keep working way past when most people would retire seem to have an addiction to work and think everybody else should to. Good for them, but that's not what everybody wants to do with their limited time on Earth.
     
  14. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    18,421
    1,612
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
    It is extremely important. And you will understand why when you need something done properly and the right way.
     
  15. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    18,421
    1,612
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
    There is actually a lot to agree with here. Unfortunately we have an open border policy instead of a common sense work policy to help. With that said...a lot can be fixed when you do not make it so easy to live a first world lifestyle on the backs of others.
     
  16. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    18,421
    1,612
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
    We had hired a company to rebuild our dock. Local guy with great reputation. I had used him for some minor work on the old dock. Unfortunately Covid and the hurricanes really messed his business up. It got to a point that I ate my down payment which was not much and he did do a minor fix to get us to the rebuild so it was even less of a hit from that standpoint (told going to be 12-14 months was turning into 24 months plus with communication worsening). Needless to say we switched to another local dock company and in less than 3 months we will be getting final inspection done as soon as it is set up as the dock is done. One of the reasons why the new company is killing it...he takes care of his employees. He mentioned this to me. And my father in law has confirmed this as he has been at the house to keep an eye on the project for us and chatted with the guys working.

    That said...it is hard work and what hurt the original company was the ability to keep good dependable labor. It is tough out there. For us as well!
     
  17. AgingGator

    AgingGator GC Hall of Fame

    3,884
    835
    2,088
    Apr 24, 2007
    Makes good political theater, but is simply nonsense.
     
  18. AgingGator

    AgingGator GC Hall of Fame

    3,884
    835
    2,088
    Apr 24, 2007
    I agree with you on Keynes, and how his POV has been mischaracterized.

    Mr. Kruger saw opportunity in Keynes viewpoint and built a company around it.
     
  19. AgingGator

    AgingGator GC Hall of Fame

    3,884
    835
    2,088
    Apr 24, 2007
    I agree with your description of Germany, but their economic situation has substantially different than ours for decades. The benefits of their situation have enabled much of it. Not knocking what they have done. They could have just as easily looked at the ACD or LCD and aimed there, but they aimed higher.
     
  20. gatorchamps960608

    gatorchamps960608 GC Hall of Fame

    4,520
    942
    2,463
    Jul 4, 2020
    To the blind, yes.

    Meanwhile, the Publix heiress who helped to fund 1/6 is reaping the benefits of $9 12 packs of Coke.