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High court to look at bump stock ban

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by rivergator, Feb 28, 2024.

  1. GolphinGator

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    When was the last time you took a test to buy a car? No one has to take a test to buy or own a car. You can get a tag and register a car in your name without a test or license. You can also drive a car without a license people do it every day. Unless you are in a state that allows you to buy a gun from a private owner and you find someone to sell you a gun you do have to pass a background check. No one has to pass a background check to buy a car ever. Sounds to me like you are repeating something you heard on CNN or something.
     
  2. mdgator05

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    I last took a test to have a driver's license a couple of years ago. And I couldn't buy my car without passing that test (they wanted a driver's license when I bought my car and when I registered my car). The form requires a driver's license number. So that is untrue.

    Driving a car without a license is illegal. And many states allow private sales of guns without background checks. The background check comes with the assumption that you are competent as long as there is not adjudicated evidence that you aren't. A driver's test makes no such assumption.
     
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  3. Gatorrick22

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    And for the people that have land with a big home, or a man/wife with several children. Should one man be allowed to protect his family with a high capacity magazine? I mean it's NOT like home invasions by gangs stopped happening.
     
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  4. GatorBen

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    You can absolutely legally buy a car without a drivers license, and my understanding is that is true in every state in the country. You can’t drive it off the lot without one (you would have to either have a licensed driver pick it up or have it delivered), and it’s possible that a dealership might not sell to an unlicensed driver as a corporate policy, but there’s nothing legally preventing them from doing so.

    Lots of states require you to have insurance to either purchase or register a car, but you can generally get an insurance policy without a drivers license too - it typically has to list you as the vehicle and policy owner but someone else as the primary driver.
     
  5. wgbgator

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    I fully support this happening with guns. Buy a rifle, but you have to keep it at the gun store until the government says you can use it.
     
  6. mdgator05

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    In this state, the title form requires a driver's license. And I know of no dealer that will sell you a car without a license.
     
  7. GatorBen

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    In states without unlicensed carry that’s effectively what happens (although, like a car you’re not licensed to drive, it’s actually that it sits at your house, not that you can’t possess it at all) - you can buy a gun, but aren’t legally allowed to actually carry it unless you go get a license.
     
  8. GatorBen

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    Florida has a drivers license line on their registration form as well, but I’m pretty sure “no Florida drivers license” is a permissible entry for that line - my point is don’t necessarily mistake the fact that the registration form has a place to enter a license number for a requirement that you actually have one.

    Have you ever tried to buy a car without a license? Because there are a number of good reasons why people do so (buying a company vehicle, buying a vehicle as a gift, collecting cars, wanting a car in advance of getting your license, etc.).
     
  9. PITBOSS

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    so maga gun nuts are sitting around their living room with a AR15 on their lap just starting at the door just waiting for the big 'gang home invasion.'
     
  10. Gatorrick22

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    You're not very good at plausible inventions.
     
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  11. snatchmagnet

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    No matter who is doing it they’re not gonna reload. They have extra mags
     
  12. mdgator05

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    In practice, those aren't really good reasons, given that you also need to list a registered driver on an insurance form, which is required for purchase in most states. But if you would prefer, the state has far more requirements for the use of a car than it does for the use of a gun.
     
  13. mdgator05

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    Is the process of placing a new magazine on a shotgun not considered reloading?
     
  14. snatchmagnet

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    So it takes longer to change the mag on a shotgun than a AR? I’m not sure what your point is about shotguns and reloading time
     
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    If I dropped a bunch of Funko Pops off the Empire State Building they could do some damage to someone. Especially the ones with little pointy bits on them.
     
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  16. GatorBen

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    Some states have more requirements for the use of a car on public roads than they do for carrying a gun on public roads is probably an accurate statement.

    Beyond that I don’t think it’s true. I can legally own an unregistered, uninsured car without a drivers license, I just have to keep it on my property and can’t drive it on public roads.

    That’s pretty similar to gun laws in states with licensed carry, while in states with unlicensed carry you’re correct that driving in public would require a license while carrying in public wouldn’t.
     
  17. mdgator05

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    My original statement was this. If you want to argue about the word "possess," fine. The rest of the sentence is true.

     
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  18. ValdostaGatorFan

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    I've got a meme for that.. one sec
     
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  20. NavyGator93

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    Love it. In Cobb Country Georgia, we have a large parking garage in downtown Marietta next to the courthouse. With metal detectors at the courthouse entrance, a cop friend of mine noted that the parking garage was a great place to do some illegal gun shopping, just break into the cars with the NRA or gun brand bumper stickers.

    The mountain bike trail head I used would also be a good place.

    Bottom line, it is silly to advertise.
     
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