a former Boy Scout dad from Ohio and a huge OSU fan hates everything about the SEC. His son is close to graduating from usf and will get a full ride at f$u for grad work as a History major (he wants to teach at the university level and will need a PhD). I suggested that the boy gets his Dr at UF to balance out his eduation as the UF program is much more highly regarded than f$u's program. That's not in the cards as it is still "UF". I imagine Herbie is the same. It doesn't matter that is was 2 decades ago, those folks hate the SEC.