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Hegseth Sends Top Secret Attack Plans to Journalist - By Mistake

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Mar 24, 2025.

  1. gator_jo

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    Definitely possible, although I've been thinking Greenland is the red herring.

    Musk just came out with his big lie about saving $1 trillion.

    It's all just silliness: government by criminals and trolls.
     
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  2. ATLGATORFAN

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    I will respectfully disagree. The only people ‘talking’ about it are trying to shape opinions. There were never war plans discussed. Thats a purposely misleading title. They discussed the use of reapers and cruise missiles. The fact that a cruise missile and reaper drone was used in an air strike is hardly war plans. Was it a glaring error, of course but the attempt to magnify this, given that the strikes were successful and a Houthi leader that had been allowed to live in the open for 3+years was killed and no us personnel were ever in danger as a result is more indicative of the phony outrage and rings hallow to anyone not
    In a silo left circle jerk
     
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  3. CHFG8R

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    Where was this the day after? Or the day after that?

    Oh yeah, you hadn't been given your talking points yet. They're still pure garbage, but what's really notable here is just what a feckless lemming you are. You and the rest are frauds. vaxcardinal gets credit for being the only one willing to wade in for the first 2 days on this.

    Go back to Tucker, Hannity or whatever loser you parroted this from. And please, don't even pretend that any of this is original thought on your part. Imagine that. Terrible answer and it's not even your own. I could just read the press release and get the same thing verbatim.

    Freakin' automaton.
     
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  4. ATLGATORFAN

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    excellent work. You managed to get a projection and straw man argument in the same post. Nobody said it wasn’t an egregious error. The phony outrage that it’s some national security scandal when nobody was injured, Targets were hit and HVT was eliminated is transparent. But please. Keep pushing this narrative. I’m all for it. Further I’d be willing to bet
    The col waltz. A bronze star officer who led an ODA team in combat is already being harder on himself than anyone else.
     
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  5. ATLGATORFAN

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    oh you’re right. I should be more like you and react immediately. Solely on emotion. Without context and information. OMG. I waited to read the actual texts and not rely on the accuracy of your hyperbolic conclusion. Once again you do yourself the disservice of calling out your own ridiculousness. And you call me the lemming.
     
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  6. CHFG8R

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    Nice spin

    "Polly want a cracker?"
     
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  7. ajoseph

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    I read the actual texts. It was a monumental error caused by reckless behavior. Thank goodness fortuity did not adversely intervene, and the error proved harmless. But, again, rather than address the clear error, there’s back-tracking, lies and weakling efforts by this Administration to manipulate the reality of what happened.

    That is what is so disturbing to me.
     
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  9. ATLGATORFAN

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    What makes you think the error hasn’t been addressed. Because it wasn’t done in public to your personal satisfaction ? Hate to tell you but that ain’t the metric they are using, Nor should they. As I pointed out, you don’t think Col Waltz, a bronze star SF officer that led a team in combat, doesn’t know it was a major F up. Of course he does. Does that mean it’s some national security scandal. No. Should he be fired for it. Of course not. Wasn’t that long ago we saw 11 marines and 2 sailors get blown up and bodies falling from C17s. If nobody got fired for that, then nobody is getting fired for an error that caused zero damage and zero death. But I will repeat. Please keep up the outage. Keep pointing it out.
     
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  10. ATLGATORFAN

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    projectors gonna project. Carry on sir.
     
  11. wgbgator

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    Like literally everything that has happened since ... they haven't even admitted an error or said "we've addressed the error." What makes you think they have?
     
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    How do I know it hasn’t been addressed? I don’t. Good point. But here’s what I know— our Secretary of Defense DOD went on Twitter and wrote the entire fiasco was fake news; a nothing burger with no issues. That’s his public statement. As an American, that gives me less than zero confidence in the competence in the leader of the department charged with our National Defense. And the remaining cabinet members have all followed the same storyline—that the journalist basically made it all up, or worse, caused the problem.

    Underscoring the argument, your last sentence says, “Please keep up the outage, keep pointing it out,” as if people like me, who are stunned at the way this fiasco has been handled, are at fault for discussing this. I’ve said this repeatedly, the best way to shut down problem is to address the problem, not lie about it, not twist the reality, all of which by definition invites more discussion.

    And no, I have not once advocated firing someone over this; that would be in my opinion a drastic remedy. I do advocate, and will always advocate, that the American people deserve the truth, and deserve to be free of misleading revisionism from their hired officials. All sides.
     
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  13. ATLGATORFAN

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    I point you to my post 133. Yes it was a screw up. And no I do not believe this is a national security threat or fireable offense in and of itself. If it was one of a series of mistakes then maybe. But I don’t know that and neither do you. The NSA is appointed and not confirmed,
    So no president is under any obligation to terminate someone based on your opinion of what he should do. Feel free to disagree, that’s was a message board is for. I don’t post for validation or an effort to change anyone else’s mind, I do it purely to voice my personal Opinion….
     
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  14. AzCatFan

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    The original mistake is gross incompetence. To claim no harm no foul because the mission was successful is crap. We got lucky, and wishing for good luck is no way to run anything, especially the DoD!

    The attempted cover-up is just as bad. Trying to call this a nothing burger with no classified intel leaked is an outright lie. And nobody in the Trump admin is accepting fault. This does not inspire confidence. It's more gross incompetence.
     
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  15. ATLGATORFAN

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    I would grade your post as overall friendly. I would respectfully disagree with the first paragraph. It may have upset you. That’s your opinion and a valid one. But Maybe to SedDef it was a nothing burger. There were no War plans as was originally stated by the Atlantic. No tactical or strategic disadvantage. So yeah to him it is a nothing burger.
     
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    I doubt there is anything current Secdef could or would do that would ‘inspire confidence’ from you. That’s not his mission or his goal, Nor should it be ……so be prepared to be disappointed if that’s your bar.
     
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    Seems like they are not admitting anything because they know it would be a fireable offense, and they think a scalp would be some kind of defeat. If it wasnt a big deal, then it should be easy to say something like "we made a mistake, and we are working to correct it." Case closed. Most people will move on. Instead, they are gaslighting and dragging the story out, because they have it in their head any concession would be some kind of defeat.
     
  18. G8trGr8t

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    you like the taste of the yellow rain don't you? they keep lying to you, you keep believing them. why?
     
  19. G8trGr8t

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    trump never admits he is wrong. neither will anybody that works for him. admitting fault is a weakness that will not be tolerated. trust that the plebes abandon all intellect and logic, tell them that up is down and they have to believe it or they will be ostracized from the cult, admit nothing, everything is somebody else's fault, we are the victims here. will make a fascinating sociological study decades from now
     
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    The only strange thing about this is that it is still discussed within the context of ....... normal conduct or expectations - as in, what normally happens, or results from actions.

    But we're in the Trump Era, an era of deceit and criminality;

    1) Trump and/or cronies think they don't have to follow rules or laws.
    2) Trump and/or cronies think it's acceptable lie to the American people at will.


    But why wouldn't Trump and his cronies think this? A tremendous number of Americans watch him commit crimes and lie repeatedly ...... and they just don't care. They watch his Administration react to this with outright lies ..... and they just don't care.

    You know who you are, those of you who don't care about integrity or truth. You watched these events. You saw that the response was to attack journalists. And to tell outright lies. And you just scrolled right past. Some of you are moderators. Most of you would claim to be people of integrity, of values.

    Shame on people like you. For enabling grotesqueries like this.