Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

Has administration learned its lesson?

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by gator10, Dec 31, 2022.

  1. wingtee

    wingtee GC Hall of Fame

    13,872
    23,692
    3,248
    Apr 11, 2007
    Daytona Beach
    You are living in the past! Wake up dude!
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Funny Funny x 2
  2. SeabudGator

    SeabudGator GC Hall of Fame

    1,074
    668
    2,153
    Apr 23, 2014
    MacElwein says Hello. If Kelly doesn’t play for titles, his act will go over like truffle oil on a corndog.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  3. gator10

    gator10 GC Legend

    603
    311
    1,868
    Nov 23, 2015
    Donovan came within an eyelash of winning it all with two completely different teams. That is pretty incredible.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • Like Like x 1
  4. gator10

    gator10 GC Legend

    603
    311
    1,868
    Nov 23, 2015
    Just because we’ve hired some horrible coaches doesn’t mean the job itself is still not a prime job. With the correct hire (hopefully Napier) we can be competing for SEC titles in a very short period of time.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  5. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    88,099
    26,467
    4,613
    Apr 3, 2007
    At least he did NOT call him maniacal.

    All kidding aside I think he meant it in a positive way.
     
    Last edited: Jan 9, 2023
    • Agree Agree x 1
  6. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

    16,724
    4,241
    3,088
    Jan 18, 2015
    We will see if he can win.
     
  7. traveling gator

    traveling gator Freshman

    15
    15
    1,693
    Mar 7, 2017
    Posts like this are why I and many others don’t come around here much anymore. The administration is not the problem. Your type of negative mentality is the main problem. It’s been one freaking year.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 2
    • Informative Informative x 1
  8. gator10

    gator10 GC Legend

    603
    311
    1,868
    Nov 23, 2015
    You would have a hard time convincing me that our administration had a great plan or commitment to execution 10 years ago when it took so long to get a football only facility and almost every other top tier school had one. I also do not think they did sufficient due diligence on either mcelwain or Mullen. Our problem is not our fans…I know you want to believe that but fans are the same at every school. Our problem has been the commitment to win at all levels of the program that Napier keeps talking about.
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • Winner Winner x 2
  9. grant1

    grant1 GC Hall of Fame

    3,383
    537
    408
    Nov 10, 2009
    Good point. Besides the university president, who is over everything, there are 3 out of 21 board members that are in the Administration and part of the UAA board. The "Administration" has virtually no control in what the UAA does. The Administration is focus on running the university, not the athletic department.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  10. upstategator

    upstategator GC Legend

    883
    344
    1,898
    Nov 1, 2017
    He isn’t a long term play. If we wanted to go outbid someone for a coach Lincoln Riley was the answer.
     
    • Dislike Dislike x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  11. TJtheGator

    TJtheGator GC Hall of Fame

    11,515
    1,946
    2,628
    Apr 3, 2007
    Orlando, FL
    Our administration is still too scared to think outside the box, be innovating, and embrace the way the game has changed for the better. They are still too afraid to have a repeat of the 1980s and fall on probation again, not realizing the NCAA itself has completely changed along with the game. Money calls the shots now, not the NCAA.

    We finally caught up when it comes to auxilliary facilities (in comparison LSU was building their football center and indoor practice facility in ‘00-‘01). But our stadium still is waaaaaay behind some of our counterparts and in serious need of a cash injection.

    As good an AD as Foley was, he was good for the time period he regined over, but his way of thinking is not good for modern times. Our athletic department still has too much Foley in it. Stricklin is just a fund-raiser but not a visionary. All of his hires have flopped (Napier and Golden still TBD).

    I’m starting to believe we need a complete overhaul of the athletic administration top to bottom, to finally rid ourselves of that 1980s mentality, start embracing what college football is in the decade of the 2020s, and have a vision of what it can be for the next 40-50 years. Need to take chances, innovate, blaze trails, be early adapters, and not be afraid that any move could put us on probation.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Winner Winner x 1
    • Best Post Ever Best Post Ever x 1
  12. ufg8r3283

    ufg8r3283 Sophomore

    93
    31
    1,678
    Dec 7, 2019
    So the fans and alumni are the problem, not the product on the field?
     
    • Funny Funny x 3
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  13. grant1

    grant1 GC Hall of Fame

    3,383
    537
    408
    Nov 10, 2009
    CTG is our 7th full time BB coach dating back to 1960 when Norm was the first. Since then, the first 4 winning percentages ranged from 49 to 56% (Kruger being the highest). BD won 72% and MW won 62%. We've not had a history of good BB. Toss out the high and the low and an 18-win season is what we should expect on average.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  14. Crusher

    Crusher GC Hall of Fame

    6,000
    1,373
    2,143
    Apr 19, 2007
    Trust me, the Administration has 100% control over the UAA....which is probably how it should be. The UAA board doesn't run any of the day to day operations, but they approve the strategy, direction, and planning. Knowing how most not for profit boards work, they are most likely not much more than a rubber stamp for Stricklin.

    However, what the UAA board thinks is moot if the academic side disagrees. There is no way that Stricklin is going to do something opposite of what his direct superior (Fuchs) wants him to do (or not do).
     
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2023
    • Agree Agree x 1
  15. avgator2000

    avgator2000 All American

    307
    115
    1,753
    Feb 2, 2019
    Oswego, NY
    After the unfortunate events of last night, expect to see this type of question being posed more often
     
  16. TJtheGator

    TJtheGator GC Hall of Fame

    11,515
    1,946
    2,628
    Apr 3, 2007
    Orlando, FL
    As it should.

    Since our last national championship, 4 other SEC schools have won a NC a total of 10 times. And 4 other times they were runner ups. Only in 2014 there was no SEC team in the NC fame.

    We on the other hand are nowhere to be found.

    Until Napier succeeds, it is failure after failure in the coaching hiring department.

    Lot of dead weight in the administration IMO. Cleaning house should not be too distant in the horizon.
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
    • Winner Winner x 1
  17. staticgator

    staticgator GC Legend

    849
    207
    1,818
    Nov 27, 2016
    Interesting to consider UGA's AD was Foley's right hand man for a long time.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  18. grant1

    grant1 GC Hall of Fame

    3,383
    537
    408
    Nov 10, 2009
    Your previous answer to the Administration control over the UAA resolved around "look at the number of Tigert Hall addresses" listed for the UAA board, which is 19%. I'm just not buying into the Administration control over the UAA.

    Why should they have 100% control? They have different objectives, why should the tail wag the dog? If it is true, then that would explain why/how the Administrations "steals" $Ms every year from the UAA since the 80s.
     
  19. Crusher

    Crusher GC Hall of Fame

    6,000
    1,373
    2,143
    Apr 19, 2007
    Former AD. He retired shortly after Kirby's tenure began. Coincidence?
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  20. grant1

    grant1 GC Hall of Fame

    3,383
    537
    408
    Nov 10, 2009
    Interesting. He learned how to do it the right way under Foley. Smart hired, had government oversight/transparency removed or lessened, AD then resigns. Sounds about right.