Has administration learned its lesson?

Michigan has made 2 playoffs and has had bball success

UNC just made a final 4. And won a title like 4/5 years ago

If you claim we are a top 5 public school then you have to claim FSU and UGA are top 20 schools. It’s based on the exact same rankings….

 

The Vols already lost to Georgia.

And some of us, who have family in Tennessee, despise them worse than the mutts if that is possible.

"Mind" what you want, and I will mind what I want.

 

Oh . . . you're just too nice. LOL!

 

The problem is that most folks don't understand how a lot of their fanbase is. Good mascot: that cur dog, Smokey.

Not accusing our new friendlyvol . . . but when they lose all the creamsicle orange stuff disappears. Overnight. Football? Is it even football season? We didn't realize. However, when they beat Florida every 10-12 years, they want to come out of the shadows and rub it in like no other fanbase.

Some directly, some passive-aggressively.

 

I had in-laws in Tellico and just got back from Nashville for New Years. It’s been a long time since they really got on my nerves. We’ve been kicking their ass for so long, they’re like a ugly little brother that you just push down the stairs once a year. I feel bad for them just a little. This vol isn’t so bad.

 

Any of the list with a Tigert Hall address. Also, Fuchs is Stricklin's direct superior on the University side, so there's that.

 

Some of yall have to see how much red and black crap is flying in the state of Florida these days. We owned Georgia in the 90s and the early 2000s but have struggled of late. We know about volsheimers but at least even their most deluded fans have a hint of humility since they rarely ever beat even our bad teams. Georgia on the other hand think they invented football and Florida hasn't beaten them in decades...

I just want out of this Bama, Georgia and at one time fsu hell we have been stuck in since our better days....

 

This program needs to be redone from the ground up. Get the guys with a bad attitude out of the program and replace them with true "team" players. Recruit well and try and retain good players who contribute all of the time. That said, nowadays guys who work hard and get better everyday are the guys we need to keep ...not the guys like AR who are in it for #1 only.

 

T-Shirt fans. Just ignore them.

 

ive never been accused of being too nice. Don’t want no mutts, hillbillies, or any other rivals parking here

 

I love the Gators with all my heart but I've finally accepted the fact we have become a second tier program in both football and basketball and no longer feared by our opponents. It has happened to others such as Nebraska and Texas. It just isn't nearly as fun and exciting to follow them as it once was.

 

Depending on what becomes of this NIL mess I think putting florida and Texas in the same category as Nebraska isn't the same....... as of now. Texas had a pretty rough 13 year stretch before mack brown restored their program. Gainesville isn't Austin but it's not Lincoln either so we are somewhat in the middle all things considered in my opinion. We are on the brink though if nothing changes sooner than later.

 

Everyone should be rooting for Napier to be successful. If he is not, I shudder to think we're we will be a few short years later.

With the portal, it is likely that his departure will lead to the departure of the talent he assembled. We can't count on the same foundation being laid for the next coach like Zook did for Meyer.

 

I often feel like many people think UF has a right to a championship caliber football team. UF is its own worst enemy and always has been, thinking of itself as a place people will flock to just because they are the U of F. There are countless examples of UF being behind other school's programs when it comes to athletic upgrades and spending. Why is that?

UF was mediocre at best for decades before Spurrier got here. Yes, there were some good years under Graves, Dickey and Pell, but Spurrier put us on the map as you all know. Meyer extended that success for a bit. Now we're back to mediocre. UF needs to decide if it wants to compete for the best coaches and players going forward. Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee and others have already made their decisions. It would appear we are headed in the right direction. Time will tell. One thing is for sure. No school, including UF, can sustain success simply by name and past achievement.

 

I think we’ll be back in football. Basketball on the other hand, I don’t see it. Our only glory ever in basketball revolves around the Billy Donovan era (unless you want to include one Final Four under Sloan). UF was a flash in the pan under a generational head coach, the likes of whom we will likely never see again at UF. That’s my take — if we get it done again in football I’ll be ecstatic.

 

I overall agree but when speaking of any of our success and other schools' success, a lot comes down to luck. You can decide to spend money but there is no saying you don't just end up like Texas, Texas A&M, Nebraska, or whoever.

In hindsight, how lucky was it for UF that the best offensive coach of the 90s just happened to be a proud UF alum who wanted to be here and hadn't already gotten another good job from Duke before we were ready for him? That's pretty lucky. What if Spurrier was an Oregon alum or something and wanted to stay on the West Coast? We'd be a South Carolina level program to this day, probably.

How lucky was it for UGA that Smart also happens to be an alum and was basically just biding his time for Richt to leave? That's pretty lucky. What if Smart just turned out to be another Muschamp? There's no shame in being a Will Muschamp level coach. In the grand scheme of things he's had a great career.

How lucky was it for Tennessee that Heupel looks like the best SEC offensive coach since Spurrier? That's pretty lucky. There's nothing about what anyone knew that said he was going to be miles better than Scott Frost. He could have been a total bust but they got lucky and he is really good.

Rightly or wrongly no one knows what they are doing when it comes to hiring coaches.

 

Kruger had some success.

 

They're still storming the field when they beat us, however. There must be some cachet left.

 

If I had a dollar for every time I used the word "patient"...The OP was talking about this year's NY Bowl games . How many of the same type of fans said , before the season started, "I expect 6-6 , hopefully better. We are building for the future." I laughed when I read those kinds of posts. They were either written by patient people who get it, or by folks who will throw it out the window before the end of May or after the third game. Even if BN would have won 10 game this year, I wouldn't be so sure he would be the best guy for the program in the long run based on that win record alone. The same if we won 6. The things I focused on is the stuff that last beyond a season that works toward a championship program that honors the school. We needed a coach who is patient, works hard, works for the players and fixes the messes they had to live with; a coach who actually implements a system for evaluating players and recruits instead of winging it or relying on dot.coms only; a disciplinarian; a good personality. BN fixed the housing , parking and food problems that Mullen neglected--in his first 3 weeks on the job! He checks off most of the other stuff.
But he also has to coach and hire good coaches. He did well with what he had and the fact his players lost the coach who recruited them. He could do better. The jury is still out. But we have to give him time to adapt.
But he has separated himself from others ahead of him in terms of fixing our problem: righting the ship FOR THE FUTURE. But the future can't get here fast enough for most impatient fans.
I need more evidence before I reach a flawed conclusion too early.
I think they taught me that at UF, and the administration approved.

 

Yes he did