Harvard University President Accused of Plagiarizing PhD Thesis

Multiple donors announced their opposition to her. Are you going to answer my question? When do you expect the finding of academic misconduct?

 

Most of the donors did it right away, not waiting weeks on end. Nothing to do with her plagiarism? That's your take? Just want to be crystal clear.

 

I will answer your question when you answer mine:

When do you expect the finding of academic misconduct?

This is the third time that I have asked you. Upon you answering that question, which I have now asked three times while you have avoided it twice, I am happy to answer your question.

 

Not sure. But considering she has had to correct some past work doesn't sound like she's being accused with no merit. So the only way you will admit she plagiarized work was for an academic misconduct review to say she did?


Claudine Gay resigns as Harvard president just six months into tenure

Harvard said in late December that it found no evidence of "intentional deception or recklessness" in her work, but it did find several instances that failed to adhere to the Harvard Guide for Using Sources that were regrettable.

Gay submitted requests to the board for corrections to two articles she wrote in 2001 and 2017 in which the subcommittee's review found several "instances of inadequate citation."

 

Yes, as that is what those hearings are to determine. Same way that I decide whether somebody committed a crime (a finding by the judicial body).

Yes, no evidence of actual plagiarism. That is the only finding thus far. Let me know if that changes.

 

So OJ didn't kill 2 people in your mind. Got it. Just making sure we are on the same page.

 

There is a civil finding that he was responsible for their deaths. As such, you could reasonably conclude that he killed them based upon the findings of the judicial system.

 

In a court of law he was acquitted of murder. So he was innocent according to your belief system.

 

100%. About 20 years ago, Alan Dershowitz did the same thing she's accused of doing. Harvard said it wasn't plagiarism, and he faced no consequences. In fact, the person who accused him of plagiarism was ultimately denied tenure at another university after Dershowitz wrote the university and attacked that other professor's character and work.

Steven Pinker, a Harvard professor who is a darling of the right, fabricated quotes in his book. He has never gotten in trouble for it.

The accusations of "plagiarism" against Gay amount to a few minor citation errors and some tenuous claims that she didn't paraphrase enough despite citing her source.

 

In a court of law, he was found liable for wrongful death of those two people. As such, it is reasonable to say that he killed those two people.

 

How much jail time did OJ do for killing 2 people? You know, that's usually the result of a conviction for murder.

 

None. He wasn't convicted of murder. He was found liable for causing two wrongful deaths. As such, it is reasonable to conclude that he killed those people.

 

So by the same thought process it's reasonable to conclude that Gay plagiarized some parts of her work since she had to go back and cite sources multiple times? Here is the quote "failed to adhere to the Harvard Guide for Using Sources".

 

Not really. Plagiarism requires intent. If I reproduce the same sentence as somebody else despite not having read that other author, I am not guilty of plagiarism. That is why the finding that she had not engaged in academic misconduct.

 

lol.

Have you ever written a paper? Most of the time I’m busting my ass just to write the actual paper and making sure my citations are correct is done at the last minute as I’m trying to finish before the deadline. Not only that, it’s confusing and nebulous. Chicago style? APA style? Semicolon? Colon? Underline? Footnotes? I guarantee if you scrutinize my citations over the years I jacked up quite a few, unintentionally, or just out of carelessness.

 

Plagiarism doesn’t require intent. However, the punishment would likely be minimal or nonexistent if it was determined that the accused just had some citation errors.

 

Written many papers over the years. My best friend is a professor at a major school. He said this is a terrible look for a President of a University. In his opinion she deserved to be fired based off what he has read. He's ultra liberal but thinks this was a terrible look for Harvard.

 

It does require intent. Here is a good definition from an academic source:

Deliberately, in this case, is a synonym for "with intent."

A specific discussion on this topic from the same source:

https://www.kent.edu/writingcommons/definition-plagiarism

 

Show me where intent is located in this. I'll wait...

The Honor Code

Members of the Harvard College community commit themselves to producing academic work of integrity – that is, work that adheres to the scholarly and intellectual standards of accurate attribution of sources, appropriate collection and use of data, and transparent acknowledgement of the contribution of others to their ideas, discoveries, interpretations, and conclusions. Cheating on exams or problem sets, plagiarizing or misrepresenting the ideas or language of someone else as one’s own, falsifying data, or any other instance of academic dishonesty violates the standards of our community, as well as the standards of the wider world of learning and affairs.

 

LOL. Had to search long and hard for that one. Here is UVA's. Show me where "intent" is located.

Understanding Citations, Plagiarism, and Paraphrasing | Honor Committee.

Citation is important because it shows that you obtained information or ideas from another source, such as a textbook, website, or research article. By failing to cite, you are falsely portraying someone else's ideas as your own; this is considered plagiarism, which is a form of cheating.