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Harris says she will sign the bi-partisan border bill that Trump torpedoed

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  1. rtgator

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    In her speech in Atlanta last night, Harris hammered Trump for putting his personal political interests ahead of U.S. border security, when he torpedoed the much-needed bi-partisan border bill a few months ago. She said that, if elected, she will sign the bi-partisan border bill.

    If Trump hadn't killed the bill, there would already be steps taken to beef up border security and improve the difficult situation.

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  2. cocodrilo

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    Of course the bill has to be passed before she can sign it. With Trump's defeat (no, I mean, after the election is stolen from him), maybe the Republicans in Congress will finally come to the senses, and even say, "Donald Who?"
     
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  3. rtgator

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    By the way, Trump did NOT pass an immigration bill to fix the border when he had the power to do so as President.

    Why? Was he incompetent? Or is it that he doesn't really care about border security?

    IMHO, he doesn't care about border security at all. He just needs the controversy on the border to stoke fear, anger and hatred among Americans through the next election.

    Authoritarians know that they need a scapegoat to blame for all our problems, so they can puff out their chests and loudly proclaim: "ONLY I CAN FIX IT!"

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  4. WarDamnGator

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    No sense in continuing to tank the bill if Trump loses… they torpedoed it because Trump told them he needed an anti immigration angle to run on.
     
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  5. WarDamnGator

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    I think republicans enjoy the division the topic can create, but in the end, it’s farmers and rural areas that rely on farming and ranching that vote for republicans, so they are not going stop the flow of their cheap labor. I mean, it’s the same reason why we don’t just write laws to throw farmers and ranchers who hire immigrants in jail … stop the jobs, stop the crossings…. But those are their voters.
     
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  6. docspor

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    Other than expensive, myopic political stunts, he has no plans to do anything about it this time either. He does seem to know that you can shear a sheep many times, but you can only skin it once. The sheep are wooly again.
     
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  7. sierragator

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    The gop doesn't want to fix it, they just want to bitch about it and rile people up.
     
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  8. G8tas

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    They will combine it with their next healthcare bill
     
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  9. rtgator

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    Agree. They kill all reasonable efforts to fix the border.

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  10. wgbgator

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    She’s going to adopt Trump’s policies after beating him? There’s Democrat brain a work lol.
     
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  11. Tjgators

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    It was not a real border bill. Stop with the lies.


    Senator Lee Releases “Dirty Dozen” Disasters in So-Called “Border Deal”
    February 5, 2024

    Senator Lee Releases “Dirty Dozen” Disasters in So-Called “Border Deal”



    The proposed border deal will not secure our border. Passing it into law would worsen the border crisis. Here’s why:


    1. CODIFIES CATCH AND RELEASE: Gives the Secretary of Homeland Security unchecked authority to release an alien into the United States under ineffective “alternatives to detention.” The illegals only have to express “credible fear” of persecution or the intent to apply for “protection determination.” (SEC. 235B)

    1. ALLOWS UP TO 1.8 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS TO ENTER BEFORE TEMPORARILY CLOSING PARTS OF THE BORDER: The Secretary of Homeland Security is only required to shut down the border if there are 5,000 average illegal crossings over a consecutive seven-day period or 8,500 in a single day. The Secretary may shut down the border if crossings are at 4,000 daily average over a consecutive seven-day period. Even during a border emergency, this bill requires the administration to process a minimum of 1,400 illegal immigrants a day. This is 400 more per day than Obama’s DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson said constituted a crisis in 2019. (SEC. 244B)

    1. LOOPHOLES: Does not count any unaccompanied alien children from non-contiguous countries, suspected trafficking victims, aliens who are determined “exempted” based on decisions by ICE, or aliens who meet screening criteria for asylum. Also allows the reopening of the border once encounters are at 75% of the number that caused the shut down, so if the number was 10,000 per day, it only has to be reduced to 7,500/day to reopen.

    1. LIMITED DURATION: Limits the number of days each year where authority to shut down the border can be in place: 270 days in first calendar year, 225 days in the second year and 180 days in the third year. The period that this “border shutdown” is mandatory decreases – in year one, the first 90 days are mandatory; in year two, the first 75 days are mandatory; and in year three, only the first 60 days are mandatory.

    1. PRESIDENTIAL DISCRETION: Allows the president to reopen the border any time it is in the “national interest to temporarily suspend the border emergency authority” for up to 45 days.

    1. FUNDS SANCTUARY CITIES AND NGOs SENDING ILLEGALS AROUND THE COUNTRY: Includes $1.4 BILLION for more FEMA grants to NGOs that provide shelter, transportation, legal advice and other services to illegal aliens and $2.3 BILLION to HHS for Refugee Entrant And Assistance, a slush fund for services to unaccompanied alien children.

    1. SUBSIDIZES FREE, TAXPAYER-FUNDED LEGAL COUNSEL TO ILLEGAL ALIENS: Orders the Secretary of Health and Human Services to ensure that “all unaccompanied alien children who are or have been in the custody of the Secretary of Health and Human Services or the Secretary of Homeland Security…have counsel to represent them in legal proceedings” and free legal counsel for any illegal alien who a judge determines is mentally “incompetent.” Mandates that the government provide legal counsel for UACs 13 years old and under. (SEC. 3512-3513)

    1. EXPANDS PAROLE INSTEAD OF LIMITING IT: Does nothing to meaningfully limit President Biden’s abuse of parole. The language makes a fake exemption that seems to sanction Mayorkas' current abuse of parole. Under this bill, Mayorkas can parole in all these groups with the implicit approval of Congress. It also creates a dangerous EXPANSION of parole by saying it can now be granted for anyone the DHS Secretary determines has an “urgent humanitarian reason” to stay and any “culturally important purpose warranting the alien’s presence in the United States on Tribal land located at or near an international land border.” (SEC. 3146)


    1. INCREASES GREEN CARDS BY 50,000 PER YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS: This includes 32,000 family-based green cards and 18,000 employment-based green cards. Hurts American workers by importing cheap foreign labor. (SEC. 3402)


    1. WORK PERMIT FOR ADULT CHILDREN OF H-1B VISA HOLDERS: Hurts American workers by providing indefinite work permits to an estimated 250,000 adult children of H-1B nonimmigrant visa holders who will be competing for jobs with recent college graduates. (SEC. 3403)


    1. IMMEDIATE WORK PERMITS TO EVERY ILLEGAL RELEASED FROM CUSTODY AFTER THEY PASS AN INITIAL SCREENING: Current law requires a 6 months waiting period after filing an asylum claim before you can apply for a work permit. Under this bill, applicants are granted an IMMEDIATE work permit if they pass the initial asylum credible fear screening. (SEC. 235C)


    1. NOTHING TO DEPORT ILLEGALS: Does not require the President or Secretary of Homeland Security to deport anyone.


    1. AFGHAN ADJUSTMENT ACT: Creates a pathway to citizenship for over 60,000 poorly vetted Afghans who were brought to the country due to President Biden’s disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan. (SEC. 331)


    1. WEAKENS ASYLUM SCREENING BY CODIFYING BIDEN POLICY: Codifies the Biden asylum officer regulation and empowers USCIS asylum officers to grant asylum, withholding of removal, and protection under the Convention Against Torture without review by an Immigration Judge, ensuring significantly higher approval rates. (SEC. 3141)


    1. NO IMMEDIATE FUNDING FOR THE WALL: The bill claims to give $650 million for “building the border wall.” This is a budgeting gimmick without any new money. The bill would simply rescind current money and then put it back in with a later date (FY2028) so that President Biden and Sec. Mayorkas don’t have to build any wall and can delay spending money on the border wall. (SEC. 205)


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  12. rtgator

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    Yes, stop with the LIES. No one said it was perfect. But, it was much better than what we have now. The bill was developed primarily by arch conservative GOP members of Congress. And the border patrol chief and union endorsed the bill.

    Please explain why Trump didn't pass a perfect immigration bill when he had the votes to do so in both houses of Congress for two years???

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    Seriously doubt the dems would allow it thru congress
     
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    What a lame post....that border bill would do absolutely nothing to secure the border. The Democrats do not want a secure border. So what if people are dying from fentanyl. The blood of these innocents is on Harris' hands (failure as a border czar). Democrats don't give a shit about the well-being of Americans. Their gas-lighting has been exposed.
     
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  17. docspor

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    show us the Trump effect....you've been gaslighted....again

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  18. docspor

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    Also, why do you think a sealed border would stop fentanyl? or, not result in something worse? I suspect these are just your feelings. If BIG GOV can just crack down enough, if they can piss away trillions more, if they can take away more freedom......


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  19. rtgator

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    Trump is the one doing the gas-lighting

    He did NOTHING to pass meaningful border legislation when he controlled both the House and Senate for two years.

    Then, Trump torpedoed the best bi-partisan immigration bill in decades. Just a few GOP responses . . . .

    GOP Sen Langford: "gaps and loopholes"
    (in current law)

    GOP Rep Crenshaw: "very disappointed" bill that "significantly decreases" immigration was "torpedoed"

    GOP Sen Tillis: "immoral" to kill bill "on behalf of Trump"
     
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  20. rtgator

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    So, you're saying that the recent bi-partisan immigration bill (which she said she'd sign) actually reflected Trump's policies? If so, then he DID kill it for selfish political benefit!

    LOL
     
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