Hamas and Israel agree to a cease fire in Gaza

Clearly the right side of the political spectrum has had some trouble with this one. Prepare for more of the same over the course of the next 4 years as the reality of Trump as president clashes with the idea of Trump as president.

 

You’ll have to watch ABC news I reported and maybe figure out why some feel that way.

My guess is to release Israel to do anything they want to Hamas and the people of Gaza? No holds.

My 2 cents

 

He was speaking to Hamas and Iran not the people of Gaza. Israel’s original goal was to get rid of Hamas from Gaza. Now they are still in control although it’s too early to tell what that will really mean.

 

Witoff is coming off as the bad guy for those on the Right that think a much better deal was in the cards. He apparently treated Bibi as the bad guy instead of Hamas.

 

Clearly, the right side of the spectrum just witnessed Trump's negotiating power with the ceasefire (thanks to Steve Whitkoff). "There will be hell to pay" if the hostages are not released by my confirmation. The Biden team has struck out for the last 15 months because they are weak. Look forward to adding to the historic Abraham Accords.

 

Reminds me of the hostages Iran held for well over a year.

 

Me too.

I suspect any liberals who lived through that episode have chosen to purge the Hostage Crises and Eagle Claw from their memory.

 

Getting 33 of the hostages released is a great start. Still 60 something more that need to be let go as well.

 

I remember the Iran hostage crisis and the primary reason why the Iranian regime decided to delay the release of the American hostages until Reagan was inaugurated was to publicly humiliate Carter much more so than because they were threatened by Reagan. Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini the Supreme Leader of Iran at the time despised Carter because he provided the former Shah of Iran Reza Pahlavi with asylum in the United States.

 

You missed the point of my post completely, but I guess you are in the camp that it was all Trump, which is fine. Some people have said it's all Trump, others on the right want to blame Biden for pushing a crap deal. It's an interesting schism. I haven't read today to see how they've reacted a day later. But that's what I was posting about yesterday. I wasn't really addressing Trumps ability to negotiate, but way to go sounding super desperate to defend him.

 

Jimmy Carter was a garbage president. He undermined the Shah and supported Khomeini. Instead of supporting the Shah and giving the decades long US ally the best US medical care for his leukemia he effectively exiled him. The Shah (who was confined to a wheelchair) ended up in Panama where he received horrible medical care. The leftist Panamanian leader taunted and mocked the dying Shah and assigned him a bodyguard who gave him lectures on why he deserved to die.

Jimmy Carter famously said "F*ck the Shah." He should have apologized to the Iranian people for the darkness and misery he gave them.

 

Please share with me the intent of your original post. Maybe word it better for people with a lesser intelligence.

I am not all Trump. I am all MAGA. MAGA is a movement... not a person.

 

MAGA is a movement centered around the worship of a single charismatic person. Although he does not have an empathetic bone in his body Trump has the remarkable gift of convincing working class voters that he empathizes with their economic hardship. Pat Buchanan's agenda which focused on cultural issues and nativism was very similar to that of Donald Trump. When Buchanan ran for office both as a candidate for the Republican nomination in 1992 and as a third-party candidate in 2000 he never came remotely close to Trump's level of support. Trump's MAGA heir in 2028 whether it's JD Vance, Vivek Ramaswamy or Ron DeSantis will not have anywhere near the fanatical support of Donald Trump.

 

A bowel movement maybe lmao. The post speaks for itself? I just thought it was interesting how the right, usually in better alignment in their media apparatus, had differing opinions on the deal as to whether they should praise Trump or blame Biden.

 

FYI, there is a lot of talk on the Right about how Trump has had to play to the MAGA movement in order to stay with them when he was better off not doing so. The vaccine skepticism movement is one where Trump should have been promoting Operation Wrap Speed as one of the biggest accomplishments by the Federal Government in a generation but he had to go Vaccine Skeptic since the MAGA Movement was already heading that way. There have been a couple other issues like that as well. I agree that Trump has fanatical support for MAGA folks and there is hardly anything he could do to lose them but he does seem to know when he has to play to them in order to avoid any daylight. Also agree that Vance or DeSantis will not have the same level of support.

 

Back to the topic, apparently Bibi is saying that the deal is not final yet and Hamas is screwing around near the end, so he will not take it to the Cabinet for a vote until they do. Apparently Hamas wants a lot of the worst of the worst Hamas fighters released from Israel at the start and Hamas knows that Israel will use their veto on them, as they want them to be the last people exchanged in this process.

 

I've had my doubts this was going to commence.. at the very least I think this reveals Bibi's confidence in Biden is pretty low.

 

Listening to Dan Senor, there is apparently a lot of public pressure in Israel on Bibi to take the deal. Senor thinks it will ultimately go through because of that.

 

As soon as they wrap their heads around the fact Hamas are already reneging on major components of the deal, that public opinion will change. Bibi is not unjustified if Hamas are already moving the goal posts.

 

This what Bibi has claimed, but has not actually said what they did or offered any evidence. His right-wing does not want this deal. Anyways, it looks like there will be a vote on Friday.