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Hallgator Pick 'em: Gators vs. LSU Tigers (MBB)

Discussion in 'Nuttin but Net' started by gatordavisl, Feb 11, 2024.

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  1. Feb 14, 2024 #41
    exiledgator

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    Personally, I base my entire self-worth on how I do in this meaningless contest.
     
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  2. Feb 14, 2024 #42
    GatorLurker

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    After I ran it for a few years they gave me a free premium membership as long as I ran it.

    Hang in there.

    I understand the flack about the MVG but it is unwarranted. You run it in a transparent way so anybody can calculate it. I might not agree with the metric you chose but it is a published metric and posters can read it before making their picks. I think it undervalues defense that doesn't show up on the stat sheet but that is really hard to quantify with only a box score and really can't be calculated as a number easily. As an example is good D that denies the ball to a good scorer doesn't show up as a stat other than the guy that scores a lot scored less than usual. Much like a defensive back that gets almost no INTs because his coverage is so good. Defensive backs that have a lot of picks are guys that are thrown at a lot and usually for good reason. And it ain't because they are good.
     
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  3. Feb 14, 2024 #43
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    Well dang, I'm already pretty bad at the pic 'em contest without adding in defensive stats? Are and blocks figured into the points? Either/or fine with me...
     
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  4. Feb 14, 2024 #44
    gatordavisl

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    Yep - blocks are figured in. It's why players like Samuel & Handlogten have a chance at MVG. Blocks also give a bump to players like Clayton/Kugel/Richard, who might get one or two in a game. And fwiw, I agree with @GatorLurker about the defensive contributions of players that don't get accounted for in the boxscore. Like he mentioned, there's no easy way to capture that data. Here's the formula:

    Pts + rebounds + 2(asst + steals + blocks) = subtotal

    Take that # and divide by:

    FTmiss + 2(miss + fouls + TOs)
     
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