Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

Hallgator Pick 'em: Gators vs. Baylor Bears (MBB)

Discussion in 'Nuttin but Net' started by gatordavisl, Nov 23, 2023.

  1. wa_gatorfan

    wa_gatorfan Senior

    227
    72
    1,713
    Oct 3, 2019
    Bears 74
    Gators 69
    Mvg Pullin
    -5
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  2. beechgator

    beechgator GC Legend

    799
    202
    308
    Aug 31, 2007
    Mighty Gators 77
    Baylor 70
    MVG Samuel
    SoG +6
     
  3. Singaporegator

    Singaporegator GC Hall of Fame

    Gators. 82
    Bears. 76
    MVG. RK
    SOG. Gators +5
     
  4. gatormonk

    gatormonk GC Hall of Fame

    7,908
    6,836
    2,803
    Apr 3, 2007
    Florida 80
    Baylor 77
    MVG Pullin
    SOG +2
     
  5. manigordo

    manigordo GC Hall of Fame

    UF-76
    Baylor-74
    MVG- Condon
    SOG- -4

    It is Great to be excited about Gator Basketball again!!!!!!!!!!
     
  6. jcmiller910

    jcmiller910 Premium Member

    2,105
    798
    1,858
    Sep 18, 2019
    My pick:
    Gators 87
    Baylor 81
    MVG- Samuel
    SoG: -4
     
  7. lifetimeg8r

    lifetimeg8r All American

    407
    56
    223
    Jan 18, 2008
    Pick the score, the Most Valuable Gator (MVG), and the Stat of the Game (SoG). For this game, SoG will be freethrow margin. Baylor averages 27.6 attempts/game and the Gators avg 28/game. Which team will get to the line more? (+3 = Gators have 3 more FTs than the Bears)

    My pick:
    Gators 76
    Baylor 74
    MVG Pullin
    SoG +2
     
  8. tampajack1

    tampajack1 Premium Member

    9,580
    1,615
    2,653
    Apr 3, 2007
    UF 85
    Baylor 83
    Samuel
    +1
     
  9. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

    31,933
    54,938
    3,753
    Apr 8, 2007
    northern MN
    Crazy scoring in this game, esp. with the Baylor shooting o_O. Nobody could come closer than 18 pts from the final score. These three were at 18.

     
  10. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

    31,933
    54,938
    3,753
    Apr 8, 2007
    northern MN
    Sog: Gators were +2 on FT attempts. Given hindsight, SoG would have had something to do with 3pt shooting.
     
  11. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

    31,933
    54,938
    3,753
    Apr 8, 2007
    northern MN
    Good game, Gators. Not thrilled to see a 95 spot, but Baylor was unconscious from the arc. Wish we could put a complete team on the court, what with the defection of Mr. Yale and Handlogten's injury. Kugel had his biggest output of the season, but it wasn't as efficient as Samuel's game. Lotta folks had Samuel for top performer.

    Player........VPS
    Samuel........2.33
    Pullin...........2.10
    Kugel...........1.47

    Leaderboard
    ApexNC..............6.0
    gator954............5.0
    fox.....................3.5
    gatorstevelp........3.5
    tampajack1.........3.5
    thenazz..............2.5
    jrpgator..............2.5
    GatorRade..........2.0
    jcmiller910..........2.5
    murphree_hall.....1.5
    wa_gatorfan........1.5
    core545.............1.5
    lostgator.............1.0
    gulfgator............1.0
    gatordavisl.........1.0
    gatortenor37......1.0
    BTEGator............1.0
    bperkins10.........1.0
    jeffphillips21.......0.5
    bullish................0.5
    Singaporegator....0.5
    GatorLurker.........0.5
    firegator.............0.5
    potomacgator......0.5
    shane4three.......0.5
    g8wayg8r...........0.5
    gatormonk.........0.5
    gatorz2009........0.5
    bperkins10........0.5
    beechgator........0.5
     
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2023
  12. GatorLurker

    GatorLurker GC Hall of Fame

    9,385
    3,981
    3,043
    Apr 8, 2007
    I understand the metric you use for MVG and that is what will be used and I am OK with that but it takes away from the stellar game Kugel had taking Baylor's best offensive player out of the game. It doesn't have to be by steals and blocks or other stats. It is stuff that he did that won't show up in a box score but coaches and scouts will see it.

    Added in edit: Everybody knew how good Vernon Maxwell was as a scorer but very few fans knew how great he was as a defender. He was special.
     
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2023
    • Agree Agree x 2
  13. tommyvee

    tommyvee GC Hall of Fame

    17,530
    9,286
    3,293
    May 16, 2007
    How did we lose that game?
     
  14. paidinfull

    paidinfull GC Hall of Fame

    6,036
    1,465
    2,038
    Feb 22, 2017
    They’re kinda good.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  15. tommyvee

    tommyvee GC Hall of Fame

    17,530
    9,286
    3,293
    May 16, 2007
    I thought we were pretty good too.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  16. paidinfull

    paidinfull GC Hall of Fame

    6,036
    1,465
    2,038
    Feb 22, 2017
    We are. It was a good game.
     
  17. GatorLurker

    GatorLurker GC Hall of Fame

    9,385
    3,981
    3,043
    Apr 8, 2007
    The other team scored more points,
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  18. fox

    fox GC Hall of Fame

    17,735
    28,512
    3,328
    Apr 3, 2007
    Florida Beachland
    I am a very good defender also, when riding the white horse.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  19. tommyvee

    tommyvee GC Hall of Fame

    17,530
    9,286
    3,293
    May 16, 2007
    You’re way too sensible smh
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  20. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

    31,933
    54,938
    3,753
    Apr 8, 2007
    northern MN
    I bet Vernon would have had a bunch of top VPS scores ;).
    Early indicators suggest that if Kugel got to the FT line more often, he would be higher on the MVG board. He's sixth on the team in FT attempted. That's only one factor preventing his domination of the mvg. As for today's game, he was great. It's why he's listed in the top 3. To your point about shutting down a player, I wonder how you would have me measure it? Perhaps I should calculate the shooting percentage of each opponent in accordance w the defending player(s) for each shot taken. Or I could go back to zero pts for mvg; but then y'all would have less cause to quibble :).
    Take a look at the season numbers. The guys meriting top player status are earning it.