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Grantham to be OklaSt DC

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by gatorstrackman, Dec 9, 2024.

  1. eightiesgator

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    It's called a bad year. You don't think 20 years and 257 wins should give him some benefit of the doubt? It's not like he's pushing 80...
     
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  2. your_perfect_enemy

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    Obviously the wins weren’t there this season but I wonder how much his comments about driving drunk a bunch but was never caught factored into things.
     
  3. UF24ou14

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    By adding Todd Grantham, seriously?
     
  4. UF24ou14

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    Not only couldn't he coach, he made up for it by not being able to recruit.
     
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  5. UF24ou14

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    Only DC that could keep an opponent's fans in the stands when they were losing with the expectations that somehow his defense would give up a huge 3rd down play to keep their team in it.
     
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  6. tommyvee

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    Math doesn’t add up. I think 257 is total games coached and he was 169-88. The reason it caught my eye is that if he had 257 wins in 20 years, it would put his average win total at over 12 games a year.
     
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  7. AgingGator

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    He sucked at UGA, he sucked at MSU, and he sucked like a car wash vacuum here at UF. No reason to think he will do well now. From what I understand, at one point he was supposedly an excellent DL coach. I do find that hard to believe
     
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  8. TrueGator

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    Other than the winning safety blitz on the last play of the Mississippi State game, nothing good about his time here comes to mind. His defense truly wasted a Heisman-worthy year for Kyle Trask.
     
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  9. eightiesgator

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    So why are college and professional staffs continuing to hire him? Because they are all stupid and Gator fans are omniscient?
     
  10. eightiesgator

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    You're right. Took it off Sports Reference.
     
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  11. AgingGator

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    Even a mediocre defense puts us in the playoff that year. A good defense would have gotten us our 4th.
     
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  12. UF24ou14

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    Do you even pay attention to on field results?
     
  13. UF24ou14

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    So, why are college and professional staffs continuing to fire him?
     
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  14. eightiesgator

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    Does the average Gator fan even know what they are seeing? At least more than NFL GMs, head coaches, defensive coordinators, college head coaches, etc? Fans always seem to think they know more about football than the professionals who are paid to know these things.

    Fans also have a strong tendency to identify occurrences as being a signature problem of a player or coach to a far greater degree than actually happened. Examples:

    * John Hoke was the worst DC we ever had (spoken at the time);
    * Chris Leak always slides short of a first down on third down (he did it once in his career versus Tennessee in 2006);
    * Ed Zaunbrecher called 15-20 bubble screens per game;
    * Doug Johnson was an INT machine (but Danny Wuerffel and Rex Grossman weren't);
    * (Fill in the blank hated coach) always micromanaged his coordinators, resulting in their failure;

    There are a dozen others to the point that they are anticipating it.
     
  15. eightiesgator

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    In 34 years, he was fired twice. Cleveland Browns in 2008 and Florida in 2021. He's had a very productive coaching career.

    Todd Grantham - Wikipedia
     
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    Used to be a poster name Themistocles that would just pontificate about the most nonsensical inane things possible. Like him, you aren't even addressing the real problems that he was terrible at defense and everything shows that he was terrible at defense everywhere he's been. He didn't the nickname 3rd and Grantham at UF he got that at Georgia.Hes been historically bad on third Downs and defense never got better. Are you blind or just argumentative?
     
  17. eightiesgator

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    If he's been terrible as a defensive coach everywhere he's been, why was he perpetually being hired while being fired only twice?
     
  18. antny1

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    He trended poorly at Georgia as well. Those numbers illustrate that he can run a disruptive defense when he has talent but the 3rd down issue was a relative constant. Comparing terrible 3rd down numbers and declining overall performance to our terrible defenses under Napier doesn't really prove Grantham is a good coordinator. He built a roster of terrible safeties and a tweener front seven that probably contributed to our terrible defense under toney athough I'm not going to go to claim he wasn't responsible for his own shortcomings. Several players mentioned after the fact that Grantham wasn't really interested in teaching or developing. Even in 18 and 19 when we were getting to the qb and forcing turnovers we couldn't get off the field on 3rd down.

    As for Zaunbrecher, I will have to rewatch that Tennessee game from his year here. I can't recall ever throwing downfield. It was maybe the most frustrating game I ever experienced (up to that point).
     
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  19. antny1

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    Also Jeremy Pruitt didn't get "fired' when he went to coach Tulane but spurrier said that the only gold plays the defense made was a dropped pass by the receiver. A year later and Bob stoops (along with some new talent) had florida attacking and forcing all sorts of turnovers and sacks. Sometimes coaches just get recycled
     
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  20. G8tr69

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    Maybe Mullen will hire him as the DC at UNLV! LOL. :p:p:p:p:p:p:ninja2: