Government - are cops the only ones who behave badly?

NYC Department of Ed manager brought family to Disney World with funds meant for homeless children (msn.com)

 

Lol

 

As a retired government worker with 25+ years of working with the public I have one thing to say about that. I used to laugh my ass off after dealing with Joe Public and hearing "Yes Sir, No Sir, We will fix that Sir, It won't happen again Sir". Knowing that the minute I leave I was going to be called a dirty son of a bitch.

Our job was a little different than the cops though. On the job we were the police, judge and executioner. 999 out of 1,000 of the violations I wrote stood up. Most contractors did not want to piss off their inspector.

 

& the right does not? Check out Reagan's record. He exploded gov in SIZE & SCOPE & he's lionized by the right. Get a clue.

 

Is the Jeffrey Toobin School of Journalism considered “virtual” or “hands on”?

 

It isn’t government per se. it is people. Any group or organization of people is subject to corruption. Could be corporations. Could be churches. We have certainly seen examples of both.

Ultimately the best cases are if there is a balance of power and there are checks and balances.

 

Cops only behave badly when dealing with certain people. When dealing with people like the guy in this video, they show extreme patience and grace. This is one instance I wouldn't be mad at them for roughing someone up.

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Let's be clear, both the left and the right want more government involvement in people's lives. The form that involvement takes is what differs. Government can do a lot of good. It can do a lot of bad. Corruption and incompetence are risks we always encounter. But I'm glad that the FDA exists. I'm glad that we have first responders, teachers, public universities, a military, a legal system, and numerous other things that make our lives better. It's easy to take competent government for granted, until it is gone.
How a New Hampshire libertarian utopia was foiled by bears

 

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Agree, with idiots who don't listen

 

Cops are generally the only government workers that get to carry around guns and use them on citizens. A teacher or DMV worker cant put you in a choke hold if you answer a question wrong on a test. Give teachers qualified immunity and allow them to fund schools with civil asset forfeiture and you would probably get worse teachers given the incentives.

 

Gov workers (I am one btw) are a reflection of society as a whole. Citizens are no better, yes there are bad cops and other gov workers, but bad citizens far outweigh any number of govt workers.

I deal with it all the time, people try and push to get away with things that are clearly things we have to police or regulate, but somehow I am the bad guy. How about the avg citizen doing something positive instead of taking it to the 'man' for some weird reason? So much wasted effort on both sides....

 

A lot of citizens could use a good choke every once in awhile.

 

I would settle for teachers getting the respect they got from students and parents that they did when I was in school (70's / 80's).

 

Maybe that has something to do with choices made by certain political parties to treat them as glorified day care workers at best and sexually deviant groomers at worst

 

Well, you could probably find someone to give you one.

 

Absolutely, some % of people are always going to be crappy people. It’s called flawed humans. The bad cops just get the attention because they kill or abuse people. It’s also disappointing when *clearly* bad cops are not dealt with. I 100% believe in civil service protections, and that includes cops, but we’ve seen a lot of cases where they rally behind each other even in incredibly egregious situations. So there needs to be a way to cut through that and get discipline.

Funny and somewhat related anecdote that came to me awhile back. A particular Panera Bread i noticed started cheating on pickup orders. It will say “order ready for pickup” but the order is literally *NEVER*, there. It will come 5 or 10 minutes later. Yet in their system it will say the order was done. Why do you suppose that is? Because if they say “order is ready” in their system it will make the store metrics look good. At a middle-office somewhere “man that store #xyz is sooooo efficient, they are never late, that manager deserves a bonus”! You realize this is literally the exact same type of cheating as the VA scandal a few years back? People trying to rig their “metrics” in a computer system. But of course one is govt workers messing with people’s healthcare and rightly was a scandal, the other is delaying people’s sandwiches. Polar opposites in terms of seriousness and attention that would be deserved, but both involve scumbags trying to game the system.

 

That probably has something to do with it but I think it's more about kids that grew up in the 90's were coddled by their parents and slowly no one trusts the teacher anymore. Back in the day, if the teacher said you did something wrong, the parent believed the teacher, now the parent believes their kid. And that goes from everything from forgetting to do your homework to cussing the teacher out. And it happens in all schools from poor neighborhood schools to affluent ones.
I think it started with the "everyone gets a trophy" attitude.

 

Yeah, giving someone a 4 star (out of 5) review on anything now is like "thanks for destroying my business and ruining my life, asshole." Nothing seems designed for honest feedback lol.

 

The vast majority of my interactions with civil servants has been with the IRS and a number of state tax/revenue departments. My biggest complaint is that these folks were usually inexperienced and undertrained in the particular subject matter at issue. I don’t know that any were bad people but maybe some were.

I would opine that the “professions” with the highest percentage of miscreant would be the political and the legal “professions”.