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Google Quantum Computer and Multiverse & NASA Parallel Uni where time runs abckward

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  1. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    Not sure I can even follow this but these sure are interesting times we live in. I've been following their quantum computing efforts and they seem to be accelerating rapidly

    OT - sort of, we spent a day in Oxford England on Friday. amazing place. The newest college there is 5 years old and entirely dedicated to AI. It was a physisicist from Oxford quoted below that discussed how successful quantum computing would confirm the existence of the multiverse.

    One can apply to Oxford or to Cambridge, but not to both. List of Oxford graduates that became world leaders of governments and industry is amazing. Cold blustery day but still learned a lot about the town.

    Will someone smarter than me break down how that all works together?


    Google says it accessed parallel universes with its new supercomputer

    Google's quantum computing breakthrough on Monday has left the physicist who heads the project a believer in 'the idea that we live in a multiverse.'

    'Willow,' the tech giant's new quantum chip, succeeded in solving a computational problem so complex it would have taken today's best super-computers an estimated 10 septillion years to solve it — vastly more than the age of our entire universe. But Google said its new quantum computer solved the puzzle 'in under five minutes.'

    Calling Willow's performance 'astonishing,' the leader and founder of Google Quantum AI team, physicist Hartmut Neven, said its high-speed result 'lends credence to the notion that quantum computation occurs in many parallel universes.'

    Neven credited Oxford University physicist David Deutsch for proposing the theory that the successful development of quantum computing would, in effect, affirm the 'many worlds interpretation' of quantum mechanics and the existence of a multiverse.
     
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  2. channingcrowderhungry

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    Wow. Yeah I tried to follow that article and it was wayyyyyyyy above my comprehension
     
  3. G8trGr8t

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    I was trying to read some of his quotes while visiting the school where he teaches..no luck. Thinking about getting the book but it will likely be over my head too.


    The Fabric of Reality: The Science of Parallel Universes-and Its Implications: Deutsch, David: 9780140275414: Amazon.com: Books

    For David Deutsch, a young physicist of unusual originality, quantum theory contains our most fundamental knowledge of the physical world. Taken literally, it implies that there are many universes “parallel” to the one we see around us.

    This multiplicity of universes, according to Deutsch, turns out to be the key to achieving a new worldview, one which synthesizes the theories of evolution, computation, and knowledge with quantum physics.

    Considered jointly, these four strands of explanation reveal a unified fabric of reality that is both objective and comprehensible, the subject of this daring, challenging book.

    The Fabric of Reality explains and connects many topics at the leading edge of current research and thinking, such as quantum computers (which work by effectively collaborating with their counterparts in other universes), the physics of time travel, the comprehensibility of nature and the physical limits of virtual reality, the significance of human life, and the ultimate fate of the universe. Here, for scientist and layperson alike, for philosopher, science-fiction reader, biologist, and computer expert, is a startlingly complete and rational synthesis of disciplines, and a new, optimistic message about existence.
     
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  4. thomadm

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    As someone that has studied QM and AI at UF, the multiverse is not proven by simple qubit calculations. Qubits and quantum mechanics are inherently part of this universe and to our knowledge, only part of the universe we know. Although we don't have a unified physics model yet, just because we can start using quantum mechanics as a backbone to computation doesn't mean anything with physics.

    It's great marketing but I don't see any breakthroughs with their claims. Just my humble opinion. We've known for decades a processor using qubits would be astronomically faster than what we have now.
     
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  5. vaxcardinal

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    To summarize in layman’s terms, it’s very fast.
     
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  6. docspor

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    if universes are infinite, surely I banged Tuesday Weld in 1 of 'em. So, I gots 'at going for me.
     
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  7. G8trGr8t

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    I didn't see anywhere that they claimed it was proven, just that the results lends credence to what others have postulated.

    Are parallel universes physical or are we all living in the matrix?

    do parallel universes occupy the same space, just at different times or in some other different dimesnion?
     
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  8. docspor

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  9. grouchygator

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    Do there is hope for the rest of us?
     
  10. vaxcardinal

    vaxcardinal GC Hall of Fame

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    I knew it, umbrella academy is real
     
  11. GatorFanCF

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    First rule of THFSG (for both you and the OP): Knowing little or nothing about a subject does not prohibit you from starting a thread or posting. Get with the program. ;)
     
  12. G8trGr8t

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    ok..this is getting even deeper. Now NASA scientists say they have detected a parallel universe where time runs backward

    something tells me we are going to learn that time travel is a thing and that is who has been visiting...

    NASA scientists detect parallel universe ‘next to ours' where time runs backwards

    In the icy expanse of Antarctica, a groundbreaking experiment has uncovered astonishing evidence of a parallel universe-one that operates on completely opposite rules of physics. This discovery could redefine our understanding of reality and the cosmos. NASA's Antarctic Impulsive Transient Antenna (ANITA) experiment was designed to detect high-energy cosmic particles. Suspended by a giant balloon above Antarctica's ice, the antennas scanned the cold, radio-noise-free environment for unusual signals. ANITA's findings went beyond its mission, revealing something extraordinary.

    High-energy cosmic particles typically travel downward from space, as Earth's solid core blocks their upward trajectory. However, ANITA detected particles seemingly rising from the ground-an anomaly suggesting they were traveling backward in time. This baffling phenomenon defied conventional physics.
    Lead researcher Peter Gorham of the University of Hawaii theorized that these particles, tau neutrinos, might have transformed into other types of particles to bypass Earth's dense matter. Such an occurrence is statistically improbable, yet ANITA observed this anomaly multiple times.

    The most straightforward explanation, according to Gorham, is that the Big Bang created not just our universe but also a twin universe where time flows in reverse. Inhabitants of this "anti-universe," if they exist, might perceive our world as the one running backward. While the discovery has sparked excitement, many researchers caution against drawing definitive conclusions. Astrophysicist Geraint Lewis and others argue that alternative explanations, such as undiscovered particle behaviors, could also account for ANITA's findings.

    While ANITA's findings are not yet conclusive proof of a parallel universe, they have opened the door to exciting new possibilities about our reality. Whether this discovery rewrites the laws of physics or unveils a twin universe, it reminds us of how much we still have to learn about the cosmos.
     
  13. cron78

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    I’m lucky to get my legs arranged in my pants correctly each morning. Please don’t confuse me with backwards time. Backwards pants is difficult enough.
     
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  14. citygator

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    I learned on a thread here a while back that time isn’t real. It’s a social construct.
     
  15. G8trGr8t

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    Well I know little or nothing and I started the thread so that means I am following the rules. That is totally unacceptable as I have a reputation to maintain. I will try and do better...
     
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  16. docspor

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    that's my conclusion. But, I disagree in that I don't see why social constructs are NOT real.* I enjoy thinking about time & to some extent reading about it. It is weird as hell. For me the topic is a nice intersection of art, imagination & science. this book is a bunch of very short chapters that imagine time working in various ways. EZ reading. I recall @phatGator having some insights on this topic.
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    two years ago over xmas, my son took us to check out the lab he worked in at CU Boulder & on a white board someone had written, Time is a Social Construct. I've always found entropy to be a similarly weird & related subject. If int, I highly recommend the 1963 novel, The Crying of Lot 49. it is a great meditation on paranoia, entropy, & the human need to find patterns & meaning.

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    * I also think the notion of what's real & what is not is int. Unicorns. How are they not real? You can picture it, draw it & describe it. A dude asked ChatGPT to use some old computer language to program code that would draw a unicorn & it did. the fundamental construct of math is a point. A pt has no height, length or width.
     
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  17. G8trGr8t

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    now quantum mechanics are being directly related to gravity...seems like a lot of stuff coming together to generate something bigger soon..


    Historic discovery connects quantum mechanics with gravity

    Scientists at Purdue University have reached a groundbreaking milestone with an innovative experimental setup involving levitated fluorescent nanodiamonds. These tiny diamonds, suspended in a vacuum, spin at astonishingly high speeds while emitting and scattering multicolored light.

    Led by Professor Tongcang Li, the research represents a significant step forward in the study of rotating quantum systems and levitodynamics. Published in Nature Communications, the findings have been praised by reviewers as “a groundbreaking moment” and “a new milestone for the levitated optomechanics community.”

    Li, a member of the Purdue Quantum Science and Engineering Institute, highlighted the importance of their work. "These levitated diamonds contain spin qubits that enable us to conduct precise measurements and probe the intriguing connection between quantum mechanics and gravity," he said.
     
  18. Spurffelbow833

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    Sure. It would have to be "Falling Down" Tuesday Weld, though.
     
  19. ursidman

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    Everything is connected. Einstein called QM spooky.
    I’m reading the book An End to Upside Down Thinking that discusses QM a little bit. So far i agree with Einstein.

    The author, Mark Gobar, has a podcast called Where is My Mind that was extremely interesting. Discusses universal consciousness and how some people are able to use their part of it to do some mind boggling things.
     
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