Gators In The AP & Coaches Polls (3/10/2025) [Update at #147]

While I want to give Auburn their due respect, davis, don’t confuse me with an Auburn fan. I’d be elated to beat them in the NCAA tournament. And clearly we are capable of that.

I didn’t see another cool graph like that one I posted (which is why posted that old one), but the link I gave you has the data that populates it. Currently (offense/defense):

Auburn: 12.1 / -0.9
Florida: 9 / -1.3

So loss quality dropped slightly, but win quality went way up. Still 3 down from Auburn, but upper echelon for sure.

I’m going to check out the simulation… Unfortunately, on my first run of the simulation Auburn beat Florida. So I’m going to keep refreshing until we avenge the loss.

1. Freakin lost to Memphis!
   
2. Now we lost to damn West Virginia! Come on man.
   
3. Lost to Auburn again.
   
4. Memphis again. WTH, Evan?
   
5. Xavier. Barely better.
   
6. There it is. Beat Auburn. Though lost to Duke. Ok now I need to win it all.
   
7. Auburn. Again. Thanks a lot.
   
8. Lost in the final to Iowa State! This is why no gets a perfect bracket.
   
9. West Virginia again. :/
10. Auburn.
    
11. Boom. Took down Alabama for Florida’s third national title!

And just because I called Evan’s numbers scientific doesn’t mean I am suggesting they are true (whatever true would even mean in this context). Most science isn’t true. I only mean to suggest that it passes the low bar of being systematic, which is more than can be said of most of our Earthly opinions.

 

Well, geez . . . all those simulations and such disparity. If only they could have settled it on the court. Listen, I appreciate the dialogue and the various metrics. I enjoy the numbers crunching and comparisons. Here's what I saw though - a FL team that went into #1 Auburn and stole their lunch money, then spent it on BBQ and ate it in Auburn's kitchen. FL didn't just beat 'em, but embarrassed em. Then FL went to Bama for an apparently unwinnable contest and once again, stole a top team's lunch. I know the tourney committee seeds teams according to season results, but I also think the way a team is playing down the stretch matters. It certainly should. At this point in time, I'll take the 27-4 team that:

• Won 9 of its last 10
• Defeated #1 & #6 on the road - looking dominant in doing so
• Defeated then #1 TN by 30
• Defeated the other team in question on its home floor in sound fashion

All the metrics are fun and interesting, but I'll stick w FL in this particular discussion.

 

Thanks for indulging my nerd rantings, Davis. I respect that you believe that those games provided unique insight into the team’s future. I’ll just leave you with my converse view that single game outcomes can be misleading. A view that I would defend to any Missouri fan who tried to argue the Tiger’s superiority over the Gators.

 

Truth be told it is Auburn or Duke. Duke or Auburn, Houston and Gators as 1, 2, 3 and 4.

 

Importance of single game outcomes . . . a view that I have not espoused purely in the argument. My stance was never simply that FL defeated Auburn and therefore is superior to Auburn.

 

Edit to say that I never suggested such a thing either. C'mon Rade! You are more objective than that.

 

I really like KP and Torvik, but Miyakawa just seems like he’s trying to get subscribers. And the simple fact that he has Aberdeen rated as the worst defender on the team makes me question his Bayesian formula. Just not sure how well it reflects individual contributions or predicts actual performance.

 

Yes, but the Missouri argument isn't valid, any reasonable person knows that. If you watched that game it was more of an off night for us, rather than them owning the court. What Davis is saying is the opposite, any reasonable person would have watched both the Bama and Aub games and concluded we are the better team.