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Discussion in 'GatorGrowl's Diamond Gators' started by Matherly87, Jun 6, 2023.

  1. paidinfull

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    Brody and Tanner have both played some first. Brody played some OF in the fall too, but haven’t seen him out there in the spring.
     
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  2. Matherly87

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    My take, I still think Heyman is best overall player for the catcher spot because of his hitting and no one else has been outstanding behind the plate. By my eye Heyman makes the most consistent throws to second. Garrison is slower on the throw down and Donay bounces too many to the wrong side of second. They all will play but it just depends on who is pitching and who we are playing.
     
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  3. TheBoss

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    I'm convinced Heyman has won a spot in the lineup with his bat and defensive competence. His position will be affected by which other players win jobs at C, 1B and DH. Heyman is more flexible than the other two. Garrison and Donay seem to be great additions to the squad, but they need to hit to earn playing time. They have hit well enough in scrimmages to get early game time, but there is a LOT of competition. FWIW, D1Bsb just ranked Heyman the #23 catcher in college bsb, not that I consider that meaningful.
     
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  4. shane4three

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    Heard Cags got hit pretty hard today. Garrison went yard. 3 run shot.
     
  5. shane4three

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    Florida scrimmage six innings. Win for Blue at 10-1 Caglianone gave up six of those 10.

    Tanner Garrison and Dale Thomas looked fantastic at the plate today. Hayden Yost also continues to impress

    Liam Peterson is filthy. Was nasty most of his outing today. Seriously was dominant at times and although we knew he would be good, he might be better than advertised. Yep, I know it’s very early.
     
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  6. Matherly87

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    Blue dominated winning something like 10-1. It was getting cold and already 9-0 after 3 innings in so I lost track of the runs. Scrimmage starts in the 3rd and went 5 innings .Here's a rundown....

    Orange in the field
    P - Cags (101 mph)
    C - Donay
    1st - Shelnut
    2nd - Kurland
    SS - Shelton
    3rd - Martinez
    LF - unknown never batted
    CF - Robertson
    RF - Wilson

    Top of 3rd - Blue at bat
    Guy (50) - GO to SS
    Thomas (1) - Walk 3-2 count
    Heyman (28) - runner steals 2nd - Single up middle - 1 RBI
    Yost - (16) - Single to RF runners at 1st/2nd
    Garrison (26) - HR to RF - 3 RBI
    Brookins (24) - Single
    #### Inning called 4-0 Blue

    Top of 4th #14 Cags Pitching
    Albert (44) - GO 2nd
    Mummau (5) - Double to LCF
    50 - Double to LF - 1 RBI
    1 - Runner takes 3rd - Sac Fly - 1 RBI
    28 - FO
    6-0 Blue

    Top 5th #20 Clemente Pitching
    16 - HR to RF
    26 - Single
    24 - Walk runners 1st/2nd
    44 - HBP bases loaded potatoes
    5 - Single to RF - 1 RBI
    50 - HBP - 1 RBI
    #### Inning called 9-0 Blue

    6th - amazing #20 still pitching
    1 - Walk
    28 - fly ball to right turns into GO at 2nd - half the team couldn't see it including the runner at first
    (funny part was Kurland playing second headed towards 2nd with the glove on his head unsure where the ball was coming down)
    Special note - this was Clemente's first recorded out
    16 - FO to deep CF
    26 - Single runners at 1st/3rd
    24 - K

    7th - #27 Jameson pitching
    44 - PO in foul territory
    5 - K
    50 - FO to LF

    8th - #27 pitching
    1 - Single to CF
    28 - Walk runners at 1st/2nd
    16 - K
    26 - K
    24 - Double - 1 RBI
    44 - K

    Game ended with Blue up 10-1. Garrison had the best bat today going 3 for 4 with a 3 run homerun and 2 singles. I'll post the Orange at bats and other notes after the basketball game.
     
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  7. Matherly87

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    And now for the Orange at bat, not much to say here.....

    Blue in the field
    P - Peterson (98 mph)
    C - Heyman/Garrison
    1st - Garrison/Heyman
    2nd - Mummau
    SS - Albert
    3rd- Thomas
    LF - Brookins
    CF - Guy
    RF - Yost

    Bottom of 3rd - Orange at bat
    Robertson (11) - PO
    Kurland (4) - K
    Cags (14) - K

    Bottom 4th - Peterson #12 Pitching
    Shelton (10) - GO
    Shelnut (6) - FO
    Donay (29) - K

    Bottom 5th - #12 still pitching deservedly so
    Martinez (23) - K
    Wilson (30) - Walk & later caught stealing
    11 - K
    4 - runner out at second
    Special note - Peterson in 3 innings with no hits allowed with 5 strikeouts

    Bottom 6th - #34 Philpott in to pitch
    4 - GO to 3rd
    14 - GO to 3rd (great play by Thomas)
    10 - GO to 1st

    Bottom 7th - #22 Neely in to pitch
    6 - GO to 3rd
    29 - Single up the middle (first hit for Orange)
    23 - K
    30 - K

    Bottom 8th - #22 pitching
    11 - Single
    4 - K
    14 Single to RF runners at 1st/3rd
    10 - GO to 2nd - 1 RBI
    6 -K

    Final 10-1 Blue
     
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  8. apkgator

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    Crazy thing is, Blue dominates despite only 2-3 projected starters in the field/hitting. Was really hoping Clemente would step up as a midweek starter, hope today was just an off day
     
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  9. Matherly87

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    Notes....
    Orange really had a bad day on the mound and at the plate as a team including Cags, Kurland, Shelton, Robertson, and Shelnut. They make up the bulk of our lineup. Still must credit the Blue with Peterson, Philpott, and Neely doing a great job on the mound and the Blue bats getting hot. Maybe Sully was restrictive in his pitch calling or had Orange batters working on some things with their bats, but Orange looked off all day long.

    Evans was seen taking his turn in the batting cage but wore a black long-sleeve but did not throw or play. Yost is stepping up in his place with a single and a HR. He shows good speed in RF and at this point I'm penciling Yost in at RF until Evans proves me wrong.

    Thomas looked better at 3rd and is showing some power in BP. Made a great play in the shift with Cags hitting a hard ground ball that Thomas made a highlight diving stop, a quick pop up throw to get Cags by a half step at 1st. Thomas deserves the 3rd base start. Martinez will be the backup at 3rd.

    Heyman looked the best behind the plate, no passed balls, no wild pitches, and he threw out the only steal attempt on a pitch that bounced up into his glove. His hop and pop were well timed and he went for it even with a low pitch and made a nice throw to the runners side. The man covering (Mummau I think) had to step off for the throw and made a great tag as the runner was sliding past.

    Cags and Donay both hit 3 HRs in BP that I saw. Might have been 1 or 2 more but it's hard to keep track when two baseballs are flying at once.

    One oddity, Sully had Shelton batting behind Cags today. I guess it was because Heyman was on the opposite team. Normally Shelton bats between Kurland and Cags. Something to watch if it happens much again.

    Speaking of Cags, he had a bad day once again on the mound. He wasn't walking everyone but he wasn't missing bats. Everyone knew they could sit back and wait on his fastball. If he keeps this up Sully might have to rethink his weekend rotation. In two innings, he gave up a HR, 2 doubles, 3 singles, a walk, a sacrifice fly, and only recorded 4 outs giving up 6 runs. It probably could have been worse than that. It's still early in the spring but this isn't the fall. He will probably have 4 more chances before the season at live action so let's see how it goes.

    The biggest thing from today, Peterson is our best starting pitcher, period. Twice now in the spring he has impressed, after a very good fall. He was even challenging Cags today with a few fastballs in his first inning and struck him out. He is showing better control of his breaking ball. Peterson was consistently in the upper 90s and hit 98. The big point is, I'd take Peterson as my starter even before Fisher. Sully won't do that to start the year but it will be interesting to see if Peterson is given the spot later in the year if Fisher is inconsistent at all.

    That's it for me and hope to be back out there some day before Sunday.
     
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  10. jdgator

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    Where is Luke McNeillie? He is a talented freshman pitcher, however haven't read about his performances.
     
  11. apkgator

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    Scheduled to throw today
     
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    Thx. He’s got lots of potential.
     
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  13. gator1977

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    87, From what I've seen in Fall and Spring scrimmages, Peterson is the real deal with wickedly good stuff. Lucky to have him on campus. As you note, FB in upper 90s and he throws that remarkable quick breaking pitch that I have not seen too often in the college game. Arguably our best SP but Sully will stick with the more experienced Fisher on Fridays in pre-season and see how it goes. That gives you L-R-L on weekends. I'm a little concerned with Cags as our Sunday SP – he simply has not been consistent enough thus far and you can't rely only on heat. You could argue that the guys in the scrimmages are simply sitting dead red but if he can't get other pitches in good spots, other teams will do the same. We'll see. Sorry to hear Clemente has not been sharp—he is coming off TJ and his control has been off- I had him a likely mid-week SP but not sure now. McNeillie has looked good and almost certain he will get the Tuesday starts in pre-season. Keeping an eye out for whom among the frosh LHP emerge(s) as reliable RP.
     
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  14. ocalaman

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    Also, we need to see who emerges as reliable weekend relievers to go with Slater and Purnell, Neely as closer.
     
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  15. Matherly87

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    I agree with 77 that McNeillie is our best option for the midweeks. But I would post-reference that by saying the deeper into the season we go the more likely Sully uses McNeillie on weekends as well. Like last year, the last few midweeks became a hodgepodge of arms while Sully honed in our best 7 arms for post season play. McNeillie could end up like Fisher last year. It's way too early to start pontificating any comparisons like that but he might develop more than we think.

    An arm that seems destined for mid game relief is Robert Satin. 77 commented yesterday he is a strike thrower and Sully is always looking for someone that will throw strikes. That said I am worried what SEC hitters will do against him but he can probably chew up a few innings here or there.

    A few others here have commented on a few others coming along well and you ought to know, Ocala's next great Gator, Hunter Jones has been doing well. I'd put him on the radar for mid weeks and mid relief.

    And don't forget there's always the hanging what if of Coppola. This conundrum at the Condron helps me recall an old song.....
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  16. Matherly87

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    Decided to put a working batting order on here so we can move around a few pieces as the season closes in. The first 5 or so spots are easy to pick for now. Its the back half of the order that will change as we approach opening day. Sully is still keeping Robertson in the leadoff position at scrimmage but, like last year, we'll have to wait and see how Mikey's numbers hold out once SEC play starts. This is presuming a game that Cags is on first and Heyman is catching. So for now using my lineup on the first page let's go with......

    CF - Robertson (L)
    2B - Kurland (R)
    SS - Shelton (L)
    1B - Caglianone (L)
    C - Heyman (R)
    LF - Shelnut (R)
    RF - Yost (L)
    DH - Donay (R)
    3B - Thomas (R)

    If Donay shows any sign of consistency I'm sure Sully will move him up. Right now for me, Brody is too big a strikeout risk or ground ball hitter to bat any higher. Yost has started off hot this spring and looks very capable of handling RF. As a LHH Sully will want Yost in the 7-8 spot to balance out the order. I think Sully would prefer Shelnut batting behind Heyman coming back with some consistency and he knows what to expect. Other possible candidates for the DH might be Evans (IR), Russell, Guy, or Garrison if his bat heats up.
     
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    Forgive me, as I am sure this is clearly updated elsewhere, but what is current status on Coppola?
     
  18. Matherly87

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    Just what the song hint shows, pray. You are forgiven.
    Nah, Sully made a comment that he is continuing in his throwing protocol and hopes to return before season's end. That doesn't give us much so few here are hopeful we see him this season.
     
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  19. TheBoss

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    Excellent assessment! I agree on who's in your lineup and also the list of who is ready to jump in. I believe most positions will be competitive all season and I'd include the position players you left out, Martinez, Albert, Mummau and Brookins. All four had good weeks at the plate, I had wondered how Brookins could go through fall workouts with almost zero offensive success, but he had at least four hits in scrimmages this week. Any guy who slumps at the plate will discover teammates anxious to step in.
     
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  20. Matherly87

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    Thanks for the support. Yes I also commented after last Friday's scrimmage how good the backup infielders looked taking infield practice. I feel they are a solid group if we need any one to step up. That's good info about their plate appearances. We are one week in and not enough time to see how they deal with different pitches once they show any weaknesses in game action. I agree though they seem to have put a lot of work in getting ready.
     
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