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Gateway Pundit to shutter…

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by higator85, Apr 24, 2024.

  1. ajoseph

    ajoseph Premium Member

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    And to the same publication that made its wealth deceiving its readers with false cries of “lawfare” and “corrupt courts” and “witch hunts,” they run to same court to hide and seek refuge when they must be called upon to answer for their lies.
     
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  2. AgingGator

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    This, in a most unfortunate way, is what the “news” media has become. Both sides have their own fringe outlets catering to both sets of extreme kooks. The big three legacy networks all lean left. The big three cable networks have two extreme left leans and one extreme right lean. All legacy print media leans left. NPR had a noticeable left lean and that was before they went out and hired a radical lefty to run it. It’s like having Jeffrey Epstein being hired as principal of a high school. There is no truth being pursued anywhere in this. “Facts” are selectively utilized to pursue a narrative.

    The current path of everyone going to their own source to hear or read what they want to hear is unsustainable. One could reasonably argue that it is already past breaking point. Now all that can be reasonably surmised is that the truth lies somewhere in between all off the media narratives spewed daily from the different sources.
     
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  3. ajoseph

    ajoseph Premium Member

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    Still, there is never an excuse to propagate lies to your readers, even if it’s what they want to hear.

    I think there needs to be a Journalism Bar, just like a Medical Bar and an Accountant Bar, where there are self-regulating professions to endure the ethics of the professions are maintained. Step outside the lines, and lose the right to practice journalism.

    I think we’ve reached that stage where it is absolutely vital to our society to have a body committed to ensuring accurate and professional journalism. Anybody can have an opinion, but if you pass off a story as news, it better be properly sourced.
     
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  4. Gatorhead

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    I agree with much of what you say, interestingly you leave out the origin of this hyper partisanship. F-A-U-X news, Rush the drug addict Limpuke, and so many others
    (all of AM radio). You make a ridiculous statement about NPR and cherry pick statements from a now fired right winger that could not stand NPR reporting fact over GOP propoganda and lies.

    You hear what YOU want to hear. And yes that applies to most, including myself. But you frothing off about its all the "left's fault" is total bullshit.
     
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  5. NavyGator93

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    I get most of my news from reading either The Hill or BBC, that's it. I like them, they seem somewhat centered and are accurate. I do avoid the opinion pieces on The Hill.
     
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  6. Gatorhead

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    Me:
    The Guardian
    BBC
    UPI International
    NPR (when driving)
    CBS
     
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  7. BLING

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    Hah. This is one step away from “both siding” Daily Stormer or some shit.

    Even if it’s true that a majority of publications leans left, that hardly concludes the truth lies “somewhere in the middle” between journalistic reporting and internet horseshit like Gateway Pundit. All kinds of logical fallacies destined to come out of that sort of thinking (something frequently seen from people who primarily rely on such “sources”, love the cognitive dissonance “I don’t believe in no fact checks”). At some point, reality is a thing.
     
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  8. AgingGator

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    Where did I say it was “the lefts fault?

    Simply stated the fact that all but one national media source leans heavily left. The other leans heavily right. That is a statement of fact. Do you dispute that?
     
  9. AgingGator

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    You don’t think the majority at least leans left?? Open your eyes and ears. They all lean left the same way Fox leans right. I believe that if news were reported accurately and fairly, and opinion was left out of the news, there would be no market on either side for fringe outlets. As it is, there is quite a market for this nonsense. On BOTH sides.
     
  10. higator85

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    When you say CNN is extreme left you lose whatever shred of credibility you have…
     
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  11. Gatorhead

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    Yes, I do.
     
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  12. AgingGator

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    Right, sure, of course.

    You are a big part of the problem. I wouldn’t expect you to be part of the solution. Enjoy your CNN tonight.
     
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  13. gatorchamps960608

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    If media is reality based, it leans left. If it's wild BS and slander, it leans right but that's ok because others lean left. If the legal system comes after an outlet for crimes, it's unfair law fare.
     
  14. ajoseph

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    The Hill, for example, disagrees. It is a conservative-run publication that is very serious about its journalistic integrity.
     
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    I bet if you poll the wild-eyed Trumpers on Too Hot, not a single one ever looks at The Hill.
     
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  16. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Good luck locating reality.

    No one believes the news media any more.
     
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  17. rivergator

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    One more time, the other large media are not the same as Fox. MSNBC could be, I don’t know. But the other networks and major papers are not.
     
  18. Orange_and_Bluke

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    CNN and MSNBC are like Fox.
    However, FOX does have some legitimate reporting at 5pm with Bret Baier.
     
  19. mdgator05

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    I dispute it. Let's look at some data. So this organization showed articles/reports from a ton of media sources to a panel of reviewers, 1 leaning left, 1 leaning right, and the other "centrist." Obviously, there are issues with the definitions of those terms, which is why these debates never end, but the theory would be that individual differences should work their way out over enough people.

    They utilize a two dimensional model: factual basis for reporting and left/right skew. Most of the "mainstream" media fits into the third highest category of factual (which is "Mix of Fact Reporting and Analysis or Simple Fact Reporting") and the box between middle/balanced and skews left. Most Fox programming and their website fall one or two categories below that in factual ("Analysis or Wide Variation in Reliability" or "Opinion or Wide Variation in Reliability") and a box further from the center ("Skews Right"). Their opinion shows generally do much worse, with Ingraham and Hannity both occupying spaces in the box for "Hyperpartisan Right" and "Selective or Incomplete Story/Unfair Persuasion/Propaganda."

    I think this is largely accurate.

    Interactive Media Bias Chart | Ad Fontes Media
     
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  20. G8trGr8t

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    leaning one way and pumping out intentionally misleading and knowingly false information are two different things. Fox and others intentionally provide false information knowing it to be false for the purpose of ratings.
     
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