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Gallup poll on transgenders in sports

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, Jun 12, 2023.

  1. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

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    Your appeal to hypocrisy only works if one agrees with your belief that trans women are men.
     
  2. gatorpa

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    In that context I would tend to agree with you.

    But certainly can’t more than one issue be addressed at a time or are we a one issue country?

    I agree the USSCG made a mess, and while I wish NO abortions were needed or ever done I realize that’s not possible and think the right has moved too far restricting abortion.

    If you are for women’s right then you should be for them for all women(not ignoring it if it’s “just a few” getting the shaft). As far as abortion it’s not just about a Woman’s right as there often is another life involved (a bit more complex no?)
     
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  3. gatorpa

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    I’d say follow the science they are physically what their genes say they are.
     
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  4. gator_lawyer

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    Cool. That's your opinion. It doesn't change the fact that people who consider trans women to be women don't see their choice as being between "women's rights" and "trans rights."
     
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  6. okeechobee

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    It's a very dangerous road when we begin lying to each other about stuff like this just to get by in everyday life. One of the markers of a totalitarian state. The lie is only amplified when we begin having (what we think to be) legitimate debate over a certain sub-topic of the lie. I really hope we stop soon.
     
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  7. slocala

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    We need to look to the sport of chess. A true sport of mental strength over physical exhaustion where gender doesn’t… crap, never mind.
     
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  8. gatorpa

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    So they follow the science when it suits them. Otherwise they just go on feelings. I guess that’s why some swear a man can carry a baby. Years ago that was called a delusion.
     
  9. gatorpa

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    Did you just watch Queens Gambit on netflix?
     
  10. middleoftheroadgator

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    A couple things here to unpack. One, of course, more than one issue can be addressed. But ROE was bigger than any one party. It has always crossed party lines. And we had, what I consider a compromise, 15/16 weeks with exceptions. The polling number support a majority of Americans support a COMPROMISE on this issue. Any movement in either direction was going to cause major problems for the party that initiated the move off the delicate social equilibrium. Take your Christian hat off for the day. I do not support late term abortions for anything but saving the life of the mother(or child if she is willing to sacrifice herself). That is called compromise. On trans issues, I'll go along with most but at sports competitions? There's my line of compromise.

    You are desperately trying to go ALL BLACK or ALL WHITE. Like most(or all) issues are not so easy. I am guilty all the time of doing the same thing. If the right thinks they can win with such extreme policies and views without compromises on many of those issues, they will never ever appeal to the votes they need the most.

    You trying to take the leap of someone supporting a trans issue and equating it to as NOT supporting women...seems like a desperate attempt to claw back some of the social culture war ground you've lost recently. Contrived. Like a "gotcha" but that little champagne confetti bottle on new years just never pops.

    Edit: The word I couldn't place is "manufactured". This trans issue seems extremely overblown and manufactured in the hope it creates a panic.
     
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  11. okeechobee

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    I'm not convinced the origins had to do with feelings. I believe it had more to do with selling a lie and forcing people, through coercion, to repeat the lie. So people are just repeating a lie now they've been coerced into repeating.
     
  12. gatorpa

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    Well there is a bit of coercion, “if you don’t support this you’re a bigot or hate trans people”.
     
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  13. okeechobee

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    A bit? That's the ultimate form of coercion. Just look how successful it's been. If they can pull this off, there's no stopping them. That's how totalitarian systems form and exist.
     
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  14. middleoftheroadgator

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    The total irony of your post? Totalitarian/Authoritarian regimes of the past, all attacked the LGTBQ community. Some flat out murdering them in camps.

    To make your ridiculous outrageous claims about how totalitarian systems form and exist is missing this huge piece. They are one of the first groups to be massacred. Now, your CLAIM, is that the totalitarian left is somehow going off script by promoting inclusion and equality? Show me these regimes that used the same INCLUSIONARY tactics. You can't.
     
  15. gator_lawyer

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    Science doesn't determine gender any more than it determines race. We're talking about social constructs.
     
  16. okeechobee

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    I think you meant "LGBTQ" community. It's not really a community. There are a lot of LGB's who want the TQ's out.
     
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  17. middleoftheroadgator

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    Grammatical error. I invert letters or numbers all the time. Your post addresses NOTHING I posted. You worked hard to post something completely off topic. Bravo.
     
  18. okeechobee

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    Yes, I put so much hard work into my post that took 10 seconds to type, it destroyed your narrative.
     
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