Gaetz vs. McCarthy … Gaetz says he’ll try to oust McCarthy this week

they know how dysfunctional maga is and expecting the Dems to save them. Maybe like McCartney should have done months ago they need to stand up to irrational maga

 

The 8 Republicans responsible need to be ousted. Nothing personal, and maybe they have the best intentions, though I have my doubts, but you can't have 8 Republicans running the show despite going against the rest of the Party. A message needs to be sent to folks like Gaetz that this will not be tolerated.

I agree with a lot of problems that Gaetz's group is identifying. Their proposed solution, however, does not make any sense. Oust Speaker McCarthy with no alternative so we can get some stuff that we won't get anyways because Democrats control the Senate and we don't have the numbers for the things we want in the House, either. It's virtue signaling with no substance at the expense of the Party that got them elected in the first place. Get them out. Electing a Democrat over Gaetz at this point would almost be a long-term win for Republicans because the message was sent.

 

Just read the thread. Where are the MAGA cult members with their excuses? Probably too embarrassed.

 

somewhere, Putin is smiling as his plan has yielded benefits beyond his wildest dreams

 

Another illustration of the difference between the two parties.
A quote from Pelosi

Pelosi accuses interim House speaker of ordering her to give up office in Capitol

 

not clever, petty bs

McCarthy could have kept his leadership by shutting down the gubmnt. would the poster have preferred that so that M could say he kept his leadership intact?

At least give him credit for putting the country ahead of his leadership position, although I imagine he didn't think he would lose but at least he was willing to take the risk

but it is much more fun to create more meme's and jokes to ridicule the other team

and we wonder why we have the cluster we do

 

It's 8 Republicans, dude.

That's a "revolution?"

 

and the dems will have themselves to thank for his leadership should he win. gooooo team

 

if the dems would have cut a deal with M back when he would have been able to shut the magats down early by telling them to f off, he doesn't need them. instead, they did what they did hoping that the pubs would implode so they could score political points.

 

It was McCarthy who said he wouldn’t negotiate with dems, don’t recall any dems saying they wouldn’t deal with McCarthy. Though they did say they couldn’t trust him. He needed to put something in writing, or in the rules package for them to vote for. He chose not to.

In either case, how many R’s voted to make Jeffries the D leader? The idea the dems have a role or blame in choosing the R’s leader seems bonkers to me.

 

You speak for the vast majority of rational people wanting Congress to work together. However, it’s a game of “disarm”. No one even knows who fired the first shot anymore. It’s just bitterness and obstruction in the minority party. Kevin went on TV and blamed Dems. Instead, he could have talked to Hakeem and worked together. But Kevin is an extremist that got kicked by the even more extreme. Hakeem may also be extreme. Kevin is not the middle and likely Hakeem isn’t as well.

 

It was also McCarthy who blamed the Dems for nearly instigating a government shutdown when the real culprits were his own caucus and he did do as recently as this past Sunday. If really he expected the Dems to help save his Speakership he shouldn't have a continue to promulgate a false narrative demonizing them.

 

Agree sort of but disagree that he did anything. He kicked the can down the road for a few weeks. The next Speaker is going to take the Country to the brink and likely over the cliff.

 

BS - just a joke. Already gave him credit - Shut down averted (for now)

I just thought it was clever; pretty much share stuff if I do, without a larger point.

I do think the situation is serious and really not about the individuals, although I have no real sympathy for McCarthy. Done plenty to harm the country even before the rise of MAGA. But the issue is not personal; it's about the larger issue, as noted in my link. I don't know how this ends. There is no way to placate the mindset Gaetz speaks for. I do reject any attempt to argue that memes on Twitter or anything the Dems did or didn't do deserves the minutest of blame. I agree with Josh Marshall on that point



But that meme was clever. If that bothers you, so be it

 

Oddly, the Dems acting personal against McCarthy by siding with CooCoo Caucus and will ultimately get someone crazier than McCarthy. They should have all abstained.

Crazy crazy world

 

Read this - especially the embedded WaPo link

No, Democrats shouldn’t have helped Kevin McCarthy - Kevin Drum

 

I’ll bet Epstein Islanders are hopping mad about this.

 

every member of the house votes on the leader. the my team vs your team is what has led us to no crossover votes but the majority party should be the one that has the leadership role.

 

the petty insulting shots from both sides bothers me and if the voters quit finding them humorous and giving them attention/clicks, perhaps they would stop. it is playground level stuff and it is sad that we have devolved into this.

 

Eight Republicans who have a disproportionate share of the power within their party and even more so within the House as a whole.

If McCarthy really hoped for support from Democrats he wouldn't have given in to the extreme MAGA wing of his own party by establishing the phony committee to investigate "weaponization" of the government; nominating a clown like Jim Jordan to chair the Judiciary Committee or going forward with the impeachment inquiry absent a vote on the proposal from the House as a whole.