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Fun freedom of speech case in Tennessee

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, Jul 5, 2024.

  1. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

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    One's written expression on their private property is quite diff from a teacher's lawful obligation (teachers abide by state codes of ethics) or rules applied in private business.
     
  2. oragator1

    oragator1 Hurricane Hunter Premium Member

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    Movie age restrictions aren’t done by the government, it’s a voluntary practice done by the industry itself.

    Yes a teacher can get fired, but if you’re cursing at a student you’re a bad teacher, thats what you would get fired for. You don’t have a first amendment right to suck at your job. Having said that, the USSC does have some carve outs for schools, but those are well established.
     
  3. docspor

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    The real obscenity is the clown show masquerading as an election….

     
  4. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Weird that you quoted my edited post. I had removed the teacher part out, but it shows up in your quote but not @gatordavisl's post.
     
  5. lacuna

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    It happens when someone quotes a post but does not immediately add a response, going back later to complete their reply.

    It happened to me a couple of years ago when I quoted a post but was interrupted and did not complete my response. I went back several hours later to finish my response, then posted it without re-reading the original post I had quoted and made a response. In the interval the OP'ster had edited his post and my response was made on the portion he had deleted. He made an ugly scene about it.
     
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  6. oragator1

    oragator1 Hurricane Hunter Premium Member

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    Just was quick in replying for once I guess, caught it before you edited it. Nothing purposeful in it.
     
  7. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Oh no. I know you didnt do anything. Just weird how the post before you had the edit, but yours didnt. A glitch i suppose.
     
  8. gator_lawyer

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    Yes, they do.
     
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  9. tilly

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    Really? Congress can institute zoning laws that restrict speech?
     
  10. WarDamnGator

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    There was a guy in Florida arrested years ago for having a large sticker on his truck that said “I EAT” and a 3 letter word for Donkey…. There is, or was, a Florida law saying you can not display profane language on your car. Charges were dropped. The law is probably unconstitutional. He tried to sue the Sherriff but it was ruled the sheriff had immunity.
     
  11. gator_lawyer

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    Cities and Congress have to follow the same constitutional rules.
     
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  12. tilly

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    Correct, but congress does not pass zoning laws/ordinances for your neighborhood, but your city will.
     
  13. tilly

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    I think I remember when that law came into effect. (Late 80's?) I remember being a teenager and thinking the stickers being banned were funny. I was a kid of course and had no perspective.
     
  14. gator_lawyer

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    I'm not sure what point you're making, Tilly.
     
  15. tilly

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    Back at 'ya. You "corrected" me but I'm not sure why you felt the need. I was correct in what I was saying. Congress doesn't pass zoning laws and doesnt dabble in "obscenity" based local laws...and is different than a city in that regard.
     
  16. WarDamnGator

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    Zoning laws have been challenged, all the way to the Supreme Court, who have determined they are generally constitutional. So zoning itself isn’t a freedom of speech violations, there. There have probably been some anti zoning wins in court if the limits seems targeted at certain groups, I would guess. Can you give an example of what you are talking about?
     
  17. WESGATORS

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    Obscenity laws seem to be more flexible when they contain political criticism. But I do wonder how many people with "Foxtrot Juiet Bravo" stickers express a preference for no profanity.

    When I see shirts like this, I chuckle, but how funny would it be if you didn't realize it was a play on words?

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    Go GATORS!
    ,WESGATORS
     
  18. tilly

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    I think we are saying the same thing.
    I believe zoning laws are generally not a constitutional issue because cities have the right. Backed up by the courts as you state). Congress doesnt involve themselves. (Which is the literal interpretation of 1A). I think congress trying to foreign content, for or against, would be an overstep and have a constitutional hurdle to jump.
     
  19. okeechobee

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    I couldn't handle the stars and bars. I'd feel too dirty. Not judging you at all, I was just surprised by this. They are too offensive to me and they are probably the single biggest dog whistle you will find. But at the same time, everybody has their level of tolerance and it's not on me to judge.
     
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  20. gator_lawyer

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    Nobody knows because you're not making any sense. Congress doesn't involve itself in local zoning decisions because it's small potatoes and likely beyond their Art. I powers. Has nothing to do with the First Amendment. Congress and municipalities are subject to the same First Amendment rules under the Constitution. They simply act in different capacities.