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FSU has only the ACC to blame

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by BillyBall89, Dec 4, 2023.

  1. doctorg8r

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    I totally agree and was thinking similarly. Do the Criminoles think any conference would take them into the fold?
     
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  2. Montanagator

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    They have decided on a plan to jump out of the ACC. Their problem is they have to cough up $570M to buy their way out.
     
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  3. Crusher

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    Now that both sides have filed, I’m sure FSU’s ‘settlements ‘r’ us’ legal team will be reaching out to the ACC the Tues after Christmas. Particularly since 1/2assU’s legal team will most likely be working on the taxpayers dime.
     
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  4. Endless Excuses

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    Next up UCF wants the state to bail them out of their new deal and get them into the SEC...after that USF wants state money to pay for the legal bills to get out of their deal and into the SEC...then FAU... FSU has a damn law school (not sure about this but they have that clowning doctorate program) and Im sure had their best minds (cough cough) review their ACC deal (unless they used state money to do that...). Now they want to void their long term deal. Fine...Im sure there are well written and agreed to provisions like that buyout they signed. Quit whining boys...pay up per the terms of the deal and act like adults for the first time in the history of your miserable university. Use some of your portal money or the NIL money you used to bring your team back from oblivion. Quit spending it on NIL, athletes, clown noses and VW beetles and you might have some money to bail yourself out instead of begging for my tax dollars. I dont want to spend on your extravagances and mismanagement once again.
     
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  5. archigator_96

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    I would love that since there is no way they can afford it. It would mean shuttering the football program. They would be on their own to craft an ESPN deal and get screwed even more than they think the ACC got screwed.
     
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  6. archigator_96

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    They only filed the lawsuit to start the negotiations on the number for a buyout. Anything less than the 500+ million would be a benefit for them although they still couldn't afford it.
     
  7. 62gator

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  8. 62gator

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  9. TrueGator

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    It's not a myth. Bowden admitted it out loud twice.
     
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  10. TrueGator

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    Who would hire someone who is known to be litigious toward his employer? No one smart. This seems like kind of a similar situation, and the Litigi-noles may find their new conference suitors to be few.
     
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  11. Claygator

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    The ACC Grant of Rights contract probably did set jurisdiction in North Carolina; why would the ACC agree to being sued in Tallacrappy, or Miami? However, removal to Federal Court is not out of the question, unless the Grant of Rights agreement rules that out. Even if it didn't, and removal to Federal Court is an option for the Noles, it will be a Federal Court in North Carolina, not Florida.

    The Noles, and their attorneys, are exhibiting extreme stupidity. No surprise there. They won't be getting any Tallycrappy home cooking in Carolina, not with Duke, North Carolina, and NC State Alumni predominating.

    This is straight up manna from heaven. Die Noles, die!!
     
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  12. 96Gatorcise

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    The entire case should be thrown out due to the fact that FSU voluntarily signed the GOR twice(2013 and 2016). They had every chance to step away, twice!
     
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  13. TJtheGator

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    “Die Noles, die!!”

    Oh how sweet a sound.

    DIE STUPID HOLES!!!!!!!
     
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  14. eightiesgator

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    But they were better than we were, as demonstrated on the field. Bowden said that when he joined the ACC, but his teams could play with anyone, and win. If they were frauds in the 1990s, they would have been blown out by Florida and their bowl opponents, but they handled both remarkably well. I hated the Noles as a younger man, but face it, they were the best team of the 1990s, with Nebraska close behind. That doesn't mean Florida sucked, mind you. I still remember the sheer joy of 1996. But throughout the decade, FSU was the better team, and they might have lost 2-3 more games in the SEC. That wouldn't be enough to drop them substantially.
     
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  15. TrueGator

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    Can't disagree with most of that. But, it was still not a myth that Bowden and fsu avoided the SEC to gain an easier path to the top, which was my only point.

    To add to that, by the time we got to the end of each season and the fsu game, we had already run the SEC gauntlet and beat each other up, too.
     
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  16. archigator_96

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    All true but when you go for the first 4-5 years before you lose a conference game, it ain't that tough of a schedule. They only had to get up for maybe 2 games a year, us and Meeami. The fact that they made it to what, 6 national championship games or something and only won 2 - that says something.
     
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  17. Distant Gator

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    I’m not sure what you are arguing?
    Was fsu great in the 90s? Yes.
    But the FACT is that they could have joined theSEC in the early 90s and DID NOT. They made a great show of spurning the SEC and going to the ACC.
    The SEC vastly preferred fsu but ended up taking South Carolina.
    Bowden himself said he’d rather be a live coward in th3 ACC instead of a dead hero in the SEC.
    This is not in dispute.
     
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  18. UF24ou14

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    They should have a bake sale. Cupcakes for 50 cents and they only have to sell a billion of them to raise most of the money, not all of it, but most.
     
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  19. UF24ou14

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    Considering the ACC carried them for five years prior to 2022, because fsu had 4 straight losing seasons following their only winning season of 7-6 since 2016, how could they possibly justify the idea that they are worth more than the other teams in the conference? They've had exactly two good seasons in the last 8 years. Since, they had no problem with the revenue sharing during those lean years, if I were an ACC lawyer, I'd definitely require them to answer that question.
     
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  20. INGATORSWETRUST

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    Always loop holes in agreements. Length of agreement, networks carrying broadcast changing, or simply the Conf accepting Stanford, Cal and SMU this year for a contract signed 8 years ago. FSU would not have known the travel costs or burden placed on student athletes, coaches and families by increased travel distance, which may have changed their decision regarding rights, … They voted no to expansion. That could be a way out as ACC changed the terms of conference scheduling and alignment since execution of original contract. This is all contract law now. Anything that changes the parameters or understanding of a contract can potentially be challenged.
     
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