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Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by gator_n_sc, Dec 16, 2023.

  1. uftaipan

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    Yeah? Just that time or also with the three separate criminal mischief, assault, and cruelty to animals cases in 2014 or the assault, battery, and false imprisonment in 2020? This is the unluckiest dude to ever walk the earth with all of these false charges.
     
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  2. cocodrilo

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    A sick one too.
     
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  3. UF24ou14

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    I think she got what she deserved.
     
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  4. UF24ou14

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    Well, the video was there when I commented, and he was being held when she punched him in the face. He charged her and she went to the ground. She got what she deserved.
     
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  5. uftaipan

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    Morally, perhaps. In the eyes of the law, probably not.
     
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    He had a big chain on a dog. That’s cruelty animals? That’s a stretch but okay I guess in your world it is. The WR Davante Phillips clearly hit that girl in the mouth but she incorrectly charged Cook. Anyone with half a brain that takes time to read that court transcript can see that. You want to blame the Tally PD for not pursuing charges after Cook was correctly found innocent I am right there with you. But you aren’t trying to imprison someone who is innocent right? There was a time and place that happened… hmm.. trying to think of when it was… but you aren’t calling for that right?
     
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  7. UF24ou14

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    While possibly true, she's the one that initially battered him. So, she really doesn't have much to support any charges against him.
     
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  8. uftaipan

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    I will let the following speak for itself about whether it was cruelty to animals or just a “big chain on a dog”:

    I would be more inclined to believe that Cook was misidentified (you know, racially, by the victim and her friends who were also black) if Cook was not part of a pattern of misconduct that included at least one more incident of violence against a woman in 2020. But then again maybe his girlfriend also racially misidentified him. Symptom of COVID brain or the like. I would also be more inclined to believe that story if, as you hint at, the TPD had charged Phillips at some point. Believe what you like. The jury clearly bought it. Hell, one juror scoffed at the notion the victim was punched at all. In his expert opinion, she fell or something. So Phillips was off the hook in any case.
    Correct. I don’t put people in prison in any case. I just mock the system of justice for SWAC football players in Tallahassee.
     
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  9. INGATORSWETRUST

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    RB announced turning pro and skipping Orange Bowl. Keeping Verse out of trouble was his last official act as FSU player
     
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  10. gator_n_sc

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    One thing about the internet.... once it's on there it will always be on there. Lol

     
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  12. Skink

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    FYI - in case you haven’t already figured this out - Tito is a nole
     
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  13. uftaipan

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    Real shocker, that is.
     
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  14. uftaipan

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    In my experience, that is not so. Not sure what the specifics of Florida law are on the matter (perhaps one of our lawyers can weigh in), but the concept of “primary aggressor” might be in play here. If it is, then it’s important to understand that the primary aggressor is not necessarily the one who instigates the fight or even hits first but the party who has the ultimate power in a physical altercation. That’s why in the overwhelming number of male-female fights, especially domestic situations, “I just hit her back” is not much of a defense.
     
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    He was being restrained and she punched him in the face. So, who was the primary aggressor? If he instigated the entire action, then yes, I suppose he was, but once he was being restrained, she took advantage of that to hit him in the face with her fist, not only that, but she covered a wide distance to do so. That's about as aggressive as one could be.
     
  16. uftaipan

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    I’m just telling you that the law may not come down to what you think is fair. She may have done that, but if when he got loose he did more than what he needed to physically put distance between himself and her, then he may have broken the law. The law only allows for force necessary to defend oneself, not whatever the man thinks is a fair and proportionate reprisal for whatever the woman did. But you are we kidding with this hypothetical? This is a SWAC football player in Tallahassee. No one is going to do anything … well, except perhaps charge her as you suggest. However, if I may give you some unsolicited legal advice, then I would not recommend doing what he did if you ever find yourself in the same circumstances. You will not receive the same chuckling forbearance as a SWAC football player in Tallahassee.
     
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    Primarily I don't put myself in those kinds of situations. And, unless you are an attorney, you're not allowed to give legal advice unsolicited or other wise.
     
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  18. uftaipan

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    I have a JD in barracks law. Does that suffice?
     
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    Is that like being a prison lawyer?
     
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    Both could possibly be charged with battery.