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FoxNews Reporting Trump to be Indicted This Week in NY

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ncargat1, Mar 18, 2023.

  1. mdgator05

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    You might want to check out what happened in terms of right-wing terrorism under Trump. It is funny, right-wingers got power and got more violent. I'll list a very small subset that comes to mind here:

    2017 Portland train attack - Wikipedia
    Charlottesville car attack - Wikipedia
    Murder of Blaze Bernstein - Wikipedia
    October 2018 United States mail bombing attempts - Wikipedia
    2018 Jeffersontown shooting - Wikipedia
    Pittsburgh synagogue shooting - Wikipedia
    2018 Tallahassee shooting - Wikipedia
    2019 El Paso shooting - Wikipedia
    2020 boogaloo murders - Wikipedia
    January 6 United States Capitol attack - Wikipedia
     
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  2. mdgator05

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    I suspect that states would be smarter than that. They generally don't want New York to refuse to extradite somebody to them the next time they ask.
     
  3. uftaipan

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    Sure, I get it, but it isn’t really like “the State of Florida” would be deciding anything here. It will be a judge (single judge, I presume) with his or her own interpretation of the law and own judgment as to what kind of argument to allow. Will that judge take into account what a New York judge might do when the shoe is inevitably on the other foot some day? I hope so. But you never can tell. This might not even be a thing. Trump might make a big show of waiving extradition and offering himself up to New York like a martyr going to a show trial. You just never can tell what that [gentleman] thinks is a good idea.
     
  4. BossaGator

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    Couldn’t NY file in SCOTUS under the Supreme Court’s original jurisdiction over disputes between the states?
     
  5. mdgator05

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    A lawyer can correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't the political people need to object to the warrant (i.e., not agree to serve it) and then the dispute would go to a judge?
     
  6. VAg8r1

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    Agree, only he will never actually be cuffed. If he is indicted and once again it's by no means a certainty he will arrange through his attorneys to voluntarily surrender, will be processed and will be released on his own recognizance. @GatorJMDZ previously described the process in much more detail.
     
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  7. Gator715

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    No we wouldn’t.

    Whatever strawman you need to justify the political weaponization of the Justice system I guess.
     
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  8. PITBOSS

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    Yep. When trump constantly spews hate to motivate his base. It will be much much worse if he gets another 4 yrs…..

    “Hate crimes surged nearly 20 percent during the administration of President Donald Trump, according to a FBI report on hate crime statistics. The report also shows that hate-motivated murders, largely committed by white supremacists, spiked to their highest number in 28 years.”


    Hate Crimes Under Trump Surged Nearly 20 Percent Says FBI Report
     
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  9. mdgator05

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    Lol, from "lock her up" to "we wouldn't be okay" in regards to prosecuting Democrats. Funny how that happened.
     
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    Hate crimes surged nearly 44% under Biden Report: Hate crimes rose 44% last year in study of major cities
     
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  11. sierragator

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    Where's that bullshit button?
     
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  12. Sohogator

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    you know just a few more strategic emoji’s would help everyone avoid insulting posters with a (how should I say it?) “A delicate nature”. Dislike isn’t expressive enough.;)
     
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  14. sierragator

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    They bark about law and order and the rule of law yet in their world the orange emperor can do no wrong, and even if he does he should get a pass because someone else did something wrong. The law does not work that way.
     
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    Did he break a law? Yes or No. If yes, then the justice system is performing as it should. If no, then you might be right.
     
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    Could it be that no one much cares anymore?

     
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  17. oragator1

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    I honestly believe that even many Trump supporters have Trump fatigue. He’s exhausting, regardless of where you fall on the love hate spectrum.
     
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    While I don’t object to prosecuting Trump for this or any other crime he might have committed, I must respectfully submit that question — while important — is not the only question. One also must ask, “Would I also indict an average, unimportant New Yorker for the exact same crime under the same circumstances?” and then “Would I also indict former President Obama for the same crime under the same circumstances?” Now if the answer to both of those questions is a simple “yes” without qualification, equivocation, or deflection, then it is absolutely not political weaponization of justice.
     
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  19. PITBOSS

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    Trumps continued influence? From the article…….

    Numerous Asian American organizations have said the increase in hate crimes against the Asian American community can be attributed, in part, to former president Donald Trump’s racist rhetoric concerning the origins of COVID-19 in China, which they say emboldened people to express anti-Asian or anti-immigrant views.”

    “The discrepancy between the FBI data and the draft report from CSUSB can be attributed to the differening definitions of "hate crimes" between federal and state laws, particularly "with respect to homeless and political status in a small number of agencies such as Seattle and Washington, D.C.," the CSUSCB researchers wrote in part. The CSUSB study also examined select cities as opposed to the entire country.”

    but still increasing. Awful
     
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