For the Republicans on this board who like to claim they are actually Libertarians

Heck, using the law to limit any immigration. Some of the most open borders people in the world are at Cato.

 

Fair enough CCH, but just being a liberal anarchist doesnt make you one either, and there are a couple teetering on that around here too.

 

Well considering Covid is the topic of the day and we have totally screwed up in handling it...

You should expect a response based on that. Especially considering you bolded the hot topic issues and linked directly to a piece and its thoughts on Covid.

 

Hey...I voted for him. You did not. And we have gotten this thing right far more than most.

 

maybe this will help. long, long before there was covid, there was libertarian ideology. There is nothing ideologically that makes libertarians anti mask or anti vacc.

 

That is fair. The mask thing was a joke from the beginning though. I am confident you will not find many libertarians who ever agreed with that dumb policy. And I agree with vaccines as well if you exclude the covid shot. I do not think you will find many libertarians that supported the policy with covid shots. Not only the antithesis of their positions. But they also failed to protect people from infections which was the point you were trying to make.

 

that is not the pt I was trying to make. The article happened to be about covid. As I stated, I don't care about covid or what was right or wrong policy wrt covid. I'll say it again. There is no ideological reason that libertarians are against masks & vaccines. Just like they are not against noise ordinances.

 

Libertarians are very rarely going to give into government overreach. So for you to cite Covid is just odd. As we have seen government overreach at its highest level. They have a sensible side. But citing a piece with Covid at this point and time is not a great idea when it comes to this discussion imo.

Libertarians absolutely want to be smart about things. In fact. If you asked a libertarian how they would have handled this pandemic. The would point you directly to Ron DeSantis outside we should have only shut down for the "14 days"...

 

your pt is not at odds with there being NO ideological basis for libertarians to be anti mask or anti vacc. finding specific examples where they would oppose masks & vaccines, does not change the underlying ideology of addressing direct & significant externalities.

 

Agreed. But as a whole…

To initiate the point of anitmask/antivax (bolded) at this point and time. Then cite a libertarian website and their Covid thoughts (yes Nov 2020). Is a bit disingenuous from even their overall point at even that time. Sure they might have said we don’t know so it’s okay for certain scenarios to have a mask policy. That said today…you will be hard pressed to find a reason for a libertarian to support any mask policy. As they just do not work. And I don’t see a libertarian supporting a uniform N95 mask policy for the public.

 

Not working is not an ideological reason.