Florida woman forced to give birth to a baby that will die immediately

As someone else said nothing wrong with a hate for example Jim Banks who would like to prevent young women from going out of state to obtain reproductive care or the nutter judge in Texas who would stop citizens from getting abortion pills. Hate hate hate those people and that’s just a start.

 

I did not. Please reread.

 

Hate is a strong word. You sure?

 

I understand Romney or Kasich, but Pence is far to the right of what you articulated. Frankly I’d probably take Romney or Kasich over any of the Democrats.

 

Oh yeah I hate that guy and for multiple other reasons as well, like seditious conspiracy.

 

Surely the trusty fact checking sites have all debunked such a silly notion by now.

 

But conspiracies don't exist.

 

It's just amazing how much animosity you possess toward people based on one topic and how you extrapolate it out to multiple topics that you are wrong about, but wont even admit it.

 

Pence based on demeanor and the fact that I believe he truly loves the country and would be a vanilla yet competent option.

 

He is filled with it. He wants to leave the country because there are so many of us.

Even those of us he may have common ground with. One less vote for that side works for me

 

No, it definitively is not separate in the sense that it can not exist separate from the mother. A baby is separate from the mother specifically because it is an organism that can live when...separate. It is dependent on assistance but not dependent on the functioning organs of a specific organism. That assistance is not specific to another entity. If you can't live separate from a single person (and not meaning any person but a single person), how are you then separate?

 

I did not extrapolate I addressed one issue pertinent to the thread (to stay on point) and that it is reasonable to assume you have other similarly objectionable positions (which it is), but I’m not sure of your other positions and willing to discuss on relaxant thread. You’re more than smart enough to follow what I said.

Come on man!

 

No, it is a word with a specific scientific meaning. You can't try to appeal to science, like Q is trying to do, then turn around and claim that the actual scientific terms are off-base. We specify it as different because...it is different. Which is why you had to come up with three words ("developing human being") to describe what is more succinctly described with one ("fetus"). You just prefer the emotional outcome of your description, which is why all of this isn't really about Biology but is instead a metaphysical question of "What is human life?" This can't be definitively answered by Biology as it is fundamentally metaphysical. Which is the main reason why the state shouldn't be answering the question either for individuals.

 

What's a reasoned pro life approach?

 

Assuming other "objectionable" positions based on one is the meaning of extrapolation. Like... Literally.

I mean are you just trolling me at this point?

 

If you have teenage boys, odds are they've killed a lot of "pre-developing human beings." By calling it "sperm," we're just making all of that murder palatable.

 

You want me to restate my position... Yet again?

Reasoned as opposed to the topic of this thread.

Understanding that perfect is the enemy of good and that those of us on the side of life would love to see no abortions have to happen, we should understand that exceptions need to and should exist because nothings perfect.

Health exceptions should be broad to include cases like this in addition to what I feel to be the obvious cases of a mothers health.

I find the two extremes on either side to be unreasonable.

 

1. I've never called it murder. It isnt in my opinion
2. It is missing half the human equation by that point.
3. My son isnt a teenager yet, but i've already told his mom to always knock

 

Exceptions? Vague, as usual. How about giving a woman a choice up to 15 weeks? Is that reasonable?