Florida woman forced to give birth to a baby that will die immediately

When you can't or won't address the point, you;re always good for a mindless right wing sound bite.

 

While I understand your desire for the culture to change and for people to acknowledge “fault and wrongdoing” and recognize that as something we all should aspire …… we are a sinful people living in a fallen world. Seemingly not all are willing to change.

 

I did address your point. Can’t force you to acknowledge it though.

 

I agree we are all sinful, I’m just saying we all have to try.

Im not trying to come from some “holier than thou” place, I’m just stating a basic truth, and I hope people come to accept it, even if they don’t always live up to it.

 

Agree.

 

Actually, no, we don’t. Sin is a religious construct. Not a legal construct.

 

Your basic truth is the distinct minority view. Hopefully you'll learn.

 

As a culture, we need basic moral standards. Infringements on that moral standard, call them whatever you want, but we should acknowledge that those infringements are bad.

Otherwise, we’re in a culturally decaying society.

 

If your definition of "address" is complete avoidance, OK. Don't worry though, everyone knows the truth.

By the way, the average bill for childbirth is $18,865. How many of those can we add to your tax bill?

 

There was a point in this country where abolition of slavery was also the minority view.

 

How about, “use birth control.”

Don’t have kids if you’re not ready to have kids.

I’m not a fan of killing the poor to save money on taxes.

 

We are a nation of laws. Religious zealots aren’t necessarily good arbiters of deciding what represents “cultural decay”, actually in many historical examples around the world they are the harbingers of decay, this especially tends to happen when the zealots start deciding they need govt to go beyond regulating a basic system of laws and instead desire to become their nations “morality police”. Iranian Revolution and Taliban are probably the most prevalent modern examples and most glaring failures. No thanks to your secret morality police. There is no such thing as successful theocracy.

 

Secular leftist cultists are the current harbingers of cultural decay in the West because they have no actual anchor, and no solid rules that are timeless.

The meaning of words are always changing and the standards are always changing. Such a society is one devoid of rules and a society devoid of rules is one devoid of decency.

 

We celebrate executions. We celebrate killing terrorists and their families. We celebrate killing “enemy” soldiers. We think those things are moral.

Wow OK you are just making up your own rules and standards here. Wanting people to privately feel guilty. Asserting that abortions are “wrong doings”.

I find people such as yourself who take liberty and rights so willy nilly based upon your feeling and whims truly scary.

 

I said “innocent.”

Also, I don’t think we “celebrate” the wanton killing of mere family members of terrorists or even consider that moral or amoral.

Characterizing war in the Western sense as the celebration of the wanton killing of innocent people is the epitome of a moronic argument.

 

Right and then abolition became the majority view, although there were probably people at that time bemoaning the decaying of the economy in society.

 

And at that time people tried to use the Bible to say that slavery should be sanctioned

 

My point is without the minority view when slavery was the law of the land, slavery is never abolished.

 

Cool. I’m not using the Bible to condemn abortion, nor are most people here.

 

Ok you are hitting all the buzzwords for amateur forced birthers. “Innocent” life. What the hell is that? How do you define “innocent?” Are the young collateral damage family of a terrorist “innocent”? You are just making this stuff up.