Florida woman forced to give birth to a baby that will die immediately

Welcome back 715. Libbies beware…

 

Saying stuff you want to be true doesn't make it true.

 

Nor does digging your head in the sand pretending your party didn’t do all sorts of heinous atrocities make it so those atrocities never happened. It just makes you feel better.

I haven’t even gotten into Japanese internment and gold confiscation.

 

A leftists view on history is a simple one.

When a conservative by modern standards did something bad historically, that person is bad.

When a liberal hero by modern standards did something bad, the whole well was poisoned and the responsibility falls on the country as a whole.

It’s the classic Communist with everyone else’s money and your own problems and Capitalist with your own money and everyone else’s problems.

 

I’m curious. What do you think of people who walk down the beach and stomp on the turtle eggs they find? I think it’s illegal, but is it immoral?

 

These three points can be summed up as pride and arrogance being reframed to make it consistent with your belief system. It isn't pride if you really are right about absolutely everything and anybody that disagrees with you is by definition wrong because you know what God meant in every capacity.

BTW, it always fascinates me how fundamentalists work their way around the numerous biblical passages warning against exactly this sort of behavior. The logical stretches contained in the "What it really means is..." structured justification are just incredible.

I think many of the people who claim to know things about Covid are supremely arrogant. And what truth is it that I know about Covid that makes me prideful?

And here is the arrogance. You get to decide whether other people have faith, have repented their sins, and are acting in a way consistent with God's desire. You have substituted yourself for the true judge as if you speak for him. Something explicitly cautioned against.

Religious fundamentalism is generally more about the person utilizing it than the religion that motivates them. Which is why the vast majority of religious fundamentalists end up picking the majority religion of their home country and then just go hardcore into how they are the only ones who truly understand that religion.

Now, here is the interesting question: despite all of the harm done by religious fundamentalists, and there is a lot from fundamentalists of every religion, I do wonder if it is a necessary thing for some people. Religious fundamentalists are usually dealing with something that scares them terribly: whether that be internal (their own urges) or external (usually some sort of history that definitely doesn't fit into a black and white framework but would be easier if it did). One wonders if the need for a black-and-white world is potentially even more harmful when removed from the auspices of religion. Because some of the other ideologies sought out to deliver this need are potentially even more harmful.

Despite this, it doesn't make religious fundamentalism the only way to experience God.

 

It is what it is. Unlike you, I don't need to alter history to somehow feel better about myself. I wasn't a Democrat in 1860. I am one now because it's clearly the better party for our country's future.

And as you know the White south was heavily Democrat prior to the Civil Rights movement. When LBJ signed the Civil Rights Bill of 1964, it alienated many southern Democrats and began the conversion of the white south from predominantly Democrat to predominantly Republican. Racists like Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond switched from Dem to Repub. And now White Republicans dominate the South and are big reason so many southern states remain shitholes of poverty and ignorance.

 

Today's Republican Party is the new Dixiecrat party. It's transformation from the party of Lincoln to its current incarnation began in 1964 when Strom Thurmond who ran for president in 1948 on the Dixiecrat (formal name States Rights Party) ticket. Thurmond ran in 1948 to protest the civil rights plank in the National Democratic Party's platform and left the party in 1964 in response to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which outlawed the Jim Crow laws beloved by him and his fellow Dixiecrats. The Dixiecrats (Southern Democrats) unsuccessfully filibustered the Voting Rights Act of 1965. In 1965 the overwhelming majority of Republicans in both the House and Senate voted to enact the legislation. The modern Republican Party successfully blocked voting rights reform legislation in 2022 through the use of the filibuster. Besides Thurmond Jeff Sessions and Roy Moore were originally Democrats before finding in a home in the new Dixiecrat party.

 

While Japanese internment was a stain on Democracy it had the overwhelming support of both parties not just the Democrats.

 

And here we go again...round and round. You are buckling down on the same arguments. Some of this is so unreasonable and irrational there is really no point anymore in engaging. We've reached a brick wall. I'm going to step away from arguing with you. I'm not going to waste my time and energy responding to this. You cannot be reasoned with. I will not dialogue with anyone who consistently warps and misrepresents me in a repeated fashion like you do.

 

Your posting has progressively grown more ridiculous. The collection of drivel posted above doesn’t make any sense and I have no idea what to make of it.

 

Indeed. Consumption of 715’s posts is a danger to one’s intelligence.

 

What exactly is the “western” attitude towards Christianity? By and large Christianity is a western belief system.

The few minutes I watched was somebody who was framing Christians as victims. Just one more example of todays victim culture.

 

I don’t believe you think that.

 

lately he has delved so deep into the partisan construct you can’t even have a constructive conversation with him.

 

Thank all the lawyers suing doctors for ALL of this folks

 

Is it immoral to eat a fertilized chicken egg?

Nope, thank the laypeople sitting on juries who find for plaintiffs and award damages, not lawyers.

 

Paul Washer is a Calvinist, it's not going to make sense, rather it will just make your head hurt. They have a very "unique" belief system....TULIP.

 

I did not take it the way that you did. The point was true Christianity will face cultural resistance and hostility from the world. The question Paul Washer was trying to make sense of is why do true Christians face hostility and resistance? To understand the point you have to make it to the end of the video. And I am sure you would not like the conclusion to the video, but I believe Paul Washer correctly discerns where the battle lines are in western culture right now.

I think there are degrees of persecution, and I think I would describe what I experience as a 1 or 2 on a ten point scale. It is not much right now compared to other Christians around the globe, but you can feel something brewing in the air if you live in this culture and you are the type of Christian Paul Washer was talking about. The hatred for Christians and Christianity grows every single year, and it is hidden behind pretexts. I believe very few will come out and openly own it for what it is.

In the grand scheme of church history periods of non-persecution are the exception rather than the rule. The early church was persecuted by the Jews and the Romans. The Christians in Africa were murdered and persecuted out of existence by Islam. The reformers were persecuted and murdered. The puritans were persecuted. Christians in Africa and Asia today are heavily persecuted. China, North Korea, and Iran are some of the worst situations for Christians today. I think the west will regress to the mean, and the leading indicator will be an anti-Christian cultural transformation. It could be argued that it has been happening since the mid 1900's. Some might argue even earlier than that. Feminism and divorce could be seen as a starting point. Then it was abortion. Then it was gay marriage. Then it was BLM and critical theories of various kinds becoming normalized in the culture. Then it was LGBTQIA. During COVID it was also the government claiming the power to shut down churches, while also letting other institutions deemed essential to be open. It has been a slow long march through the culture, but the culture is overturning everything that is rooted in the truth of Christianity.

If you read Too Hot every single day, then you know the prevailing popular western attitude towards Christianity. It is pretty much how 90%+ of posters respond to me.