Florida woman forced to give birth to a baby that will die immediately

You are too trusting for my taste. There might be a handful of capable responsible teachers in each public school able to teach this subject approximately and effectively.
And passing out contraceptives is openly saying “have at it” to kids who likely don’t even brush their teeth each morning.
You guys are a hoot. Cling to the liberal studies though.

 

True but it’s because they had/have dumbass parents. I moved from Boston area to Bellaire for my senior year. While in 11th grade I was taking World Literature 2 and Calculus. My parents wanted to send me to Berkeley Prep but I was a bit of a lazy ass and didn’t want the commute. My parents had a pretty negative view of public schools in Fl back then (rightfully so) so I volunteered to go to CCC. Though none of us were religious by then I had gone to a middle school that was deeply Catholic but very into rigorous classical education (mass was said in Latin) I could handle it. What I was didn’t expect was how stupid everyone was including the teachers. Instead of world lit I took Vocabulary 2 which I swear was at an 8th grade level. I also had to take Biology again. Of the top 2 students I went to Tulane (best sailing team in the country) and biggest party school, and the valedictorian went to Cornell. I think a few made it to Florida and USF and the like but 50%+ didn’t make it to college. Before I lost touch around my Sophomore year a couple were dead and a slew were pregnant (they were all having sex like bunnies while in school).

So yeah Christian education Florida styles is lousy much better off going to public schools. They can push the elite students.

 

Public schools are a joke. Some religious schools are a joke. But thanks for the anecdote.

 

Kids who are going to have sex are going to have sex. Availability of condoms isn’t going to cause weekend high school orgies. If kids have 10% to 20% more sex due to availability of condoms that’s a win to me.

Abstinence training has failed in study after study.

 

Me thinks you missed the point.

 

I guess the question for me is what age are these kids? We both have thrown the word kids around loosely.
I really am fighting against the idea of condoning behavior I know is best suited by adults.
And I’d like to live in a world where adults advocate for abstinence until a certain age, say 18.
I see nothing wrong in setting goals to improve a teens chance of living a successful life.

 

Anecdotes really arent fair on either side of this debate.

 

It’s pretty undeniable that if you are a top student Christian schools outside of Catholic schools (and only a few here and there) aren’t a good option. That’s does change in college but those institutions are teaching a classic liberal education and if you don’t want to you don’t need to participate in the religious mumbo jumbo. Heck I took into to Buddism at UF

 

I don’t know how undeniable it is. I have a child in a non woke public school and its also non religious private school.
But I’m not that quick to say it’s undeniably the best option. I’m biased and I’m very satisfied though.

 

Parents can advocate abstinence every day if they want.

Why should a school pursue a policy that has been over and over shown not to work? If it actually worked I don’t have an issue with it, but it just doesn’t.

 

Maybe the abstinence policy had not been implemented properly.
I mean we’re talking about public schools aren’t we? Many of these buildings are dumps.

 

All the public schools my kids went to in TX had far nicer facilities than anywhere I went to school in FL 40-50 years ago.

 

Better to double down on a failed policy rather than do something that is proven effective? Sorry, but that makes you part of the problem. And many public schools around the country are great.

 

Sorry, but you want to be the guy passing out condoms in front of middle schools. You are the a part of the problem. You want kids to have sex. Good for you.

 

I want kids to make good, informed, educated decisions. Every study I've ever seen shows when it comes to sex, kids work comprehensive sex education make better choices than kids that don't.

You want perfect. But that's not possible. I want better. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. My way is proven to reduce teen pregnancy. Your way has proven to be a failure.

 

Nobody in good conscience would serve up condoms on a platter to middle school kids. I don’t want to live in a place like that.

 

Point of order, abstinence-only education can be very effective, but it requires weekly, if not daily, repetition of the lessons, and 10-15 years of those lessons to be effective. It has to be done, not by schools, but by families.

As school policy, abstinence-only education does not reduce teen pregnancy or abortions. Schools shouldn't waste time on abstinence-only education.

I believe that if more families would put in the work to teach their kids abstinence-only sex education from a young age, there would be many fewer teen pregnancies and abortions. But the schools can't do what families can, and American families are struggling and don't always have the time it takes to raise their kids properly.

 

Why? If the action results in better choices from the kids, less teen pregnancies, less abortion, and kids waiting longer before their first time, we shouldn't object to the action. We should be hailing the results.

 

And a lot of the time, it’s family members that are sexually molesting the 12,13,14 and 15 year old girls

 

Has this policy ever been put into place and to what degree? You don’t really if having condom dispensers around every school hallway would decrease pregnancies.
Seems like your studies are likely done and financed by anti-Christians.
It’s all too familiar sounding to me now.