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Florida & New York Primaries 8/23

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ETGator1, Aug 23, 2022.

  1. Gatorrick22

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    This is the type of psychology that the Dems in congress want and need to run our country into the ground.

    Congratulations for being the type of voter that stands for nothing and fall for everything.

    Now kneel for your overloads... the Bolshevik Loving Marxists.
     
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  2. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Good for you. Guess you can go support the culture war nonsense from the nasty libbie party then.
     
  3. Orange_and_Bluke

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    This libbie board may have gotten inside your head. I’m starting to worry.
     
  4. ETGator1

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    Don't forget obscene and wasteful inflationary government spending, recession, stagflation, the foreign attack on our southern border, the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan, the war on fossil fuels which we still need, and the weaponization of the US KGB and government agencies to attack political enemies of the democratic socialist state which is an impeachable offense.
     
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  5. channingcrowderhungry

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    I mean, the left leaning posters on this board certainly make more persuasive arguments than most of those on the right. Most of those guys don't even deal in reality.
     
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  6. gator95

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    What point? Being locked down and closing schools and enacting mask mandates? You enjoy the left bud. I’ll sit in the middle and never vote for someone who was for lockdowns/school closures.
     
  7. gator95

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    At least try to be funny. Swing and a miss.
     
  8. gator95

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    Anti vax for kids. Big difference.
     
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  9. gator95

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    Hey I know what we can do to thwart inflation, lets print more money! That will work for sure! Keep printing money, what’s the worst that can happen, right?
     
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  10. channingcrowderhungry

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    Yeah buddy, now we're talking. Point me to the party that isn't for runaway spending and printing money and I'll vote for them. Where they at?
     
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  11. back2back2006

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    Culture war against a party that supports mental illnesses, criminals, marxism and are anti police are absolutely favored by 73% of the country.
     
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  12. mdgator05

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    Yeah, won't you think about all of those highly restrictive monetary supply folks that Republican Presidents have appointed to be Fed Chairman like...end list.
     
  13. docspor

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    Maybe with your big IQ you can tell us how new NAFTA is less socialist than disastrous old NAFTA
     
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  14. channingcrowderhungry

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    Nothing is more disingenuous than Republicans claiming to still be the party of small govt and fiscal conservatism.

    Our choices now are two flavors of big government political parties. And you can have your big govt with a heaping portion of Christian Authoritarianism, or without.
     
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  15. duchen

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    Back to the topic. Crist blow out.
     
  16. GatorRade

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    When dealing with political debates, at some point liberals started uttering this phrase, which was something like, “it’s not our fault if reality has a liberal bias.” This is a cute slogan, if you are a liberal, but it’s one that suggests that this breed of mind is the only one that can deliver real truth, which is a dangerous proposition indeed.

    It seems to me that the right has basically adopted the same strategy here. Lose an election? Well it was rigged. Inflation too low? They are using the wrong measure. Find some classified documents in your personal safe? Political witch hunt.

    In the end, there has to be an non-partisan approach to adjudicating what is reality. I think this is a tougher proposition than most realize, but I do believe it is easier to spot BS. If an entity only ever finds value in one tribe’s beliefs and actions over and over again, I take this as a clear sign the entity isn’t seeking truth but affirmation.

    It may seem to you completely unreasonable to prefer pandemic lockdowns over unyielding fealty to an individual, but I can conjure no objective criteria by which this determination could be made. Instead, this preference seems like it must be based at least in part by values.

    Im not a fan of the democrats’ current posture either, but it has little to do with COVID politices. I can’t speak for @channingcrowderhungry, but my values include the precautionary principle that suggests limiting catastrophic risk. Encouraging masks during a novel pandemic is completely consistent with this end. Basically yielding the final say of what is true to one disreputable man appears much riskier. I still doubt I’ll vote Democrat in 24’, but there’s almost no way I’m voting Republican. The downside is too high.
     
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  17. docspor

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    pave the way, put your back in to it.
     
  18. gator95

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    It’s why I don’t vote down party lines anymore like you and most on here seem to do. I’ll put my voting record against any on here. I’ve probably voted 60-40 rep-dem in the past 8 years or so. Hate that no one is fiscally responsible anymore.
     
  19. GatorBen

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    A bit surprising to me, and I don’t know that it’s the best choice for the Dems (although I’ll take it as someone who wants to see DeSantis cruise to re-election).

    But it ought to make for an interesting study of how a sitting member of the Florida Cabinet, in a race with hellacious spending on both sides, managed to siphon off roughly the same percentage of votes from a human wind gauge that literally no one actually likes in the Democratic gubernatorial primary, as a worm farmer who has never run for office before and spent $100k did against the outgoing Senate president - who garnered literally every endorsement out there and spent 5 or 6 times that amount - in the Republican ag commissioner primary.
     
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  20. philnotfil

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    Extreme GOP candidates allege voter fraud after losing primaries

    Two of the most extreme Republican candidates who lost their congressional primaries on Tuesday are following Donald Trump’s example and blaming their defeats on electoral fraud – without providing any evidence for it.

    Laura Loomer and Carl Paladino, who competed in Florida and New York, respectively, both came within single digits of their more mainstream opponents. Both have spent years chasing controversy, and have run for various high-ranking public offices without success.

    Ms Loomer, a noted Islamophobe who has made a reputation staging stunt protests – including at congressional hearings – came within seven points of her main rival in Florida’s 11th Congressional District.

    Reacting to her loss, she gave a tearful speech in which she insisted “I’m not conceding! Because I’m a winner, and the reality is our Republican Party is broken to its core,” blaming her defeat – and the supposed loss of the country as a whole – on “big tech election interference”.
     
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