Florida marijuana initiative in jeopardy despite having one million signatures

Pretty simple.
Compare to sample sets one has billions of data points, the other has a few millions…

 

Just my 1 cent...

A few million data points is a massive number in itself. Plenty to make valid comparisons. But I'm skeptical about mj being a cause of psychosis in the long run, at least not in any widespread way. Temporary psychosis such as paranoia? Yes, in some, especially for extreme users in acute situations. Not saying mj is as innocuous as some believe but it's comparatively much less harmful.

 

And yet given all of those data points regarding alcohol it's still consider a staple of society while we continue to criminalize weed.

To be certain, it doesn't have to be an either or issue and at the same time I'm not trying to equate the two however the hypocrisy is palpable.

 

You love big government intervening in adult’s private lives. How conservative of you.

 

Pfft
Government intervenes in our lives when it comes to safety issues every damn day.

Should we abolish seatbelt laws?
The need to Driver licenses?
Speed limits?
DUI laws?

I didn’t know you were such a libertarian…

 

All depends on who you are and what you’re using.

All I’m saying is do some research Mutz.
There is a reason American Psychiatric Association doesn’t agree with legalization. It’s not because they need want more patients.
They have more than enough.

 

You left one out: motorcycle helmet laws. Oh, wait...

 

I have read quite a bit of scientific research on mj. Seems to me that as far as mj causing long term or "permanent" psychosis, the science is inconclusive.

Again, I'm not claiming mj is innocuous or that it can't cause permanent forms of psychosis, but if the research was conclusive, the discussion would be very different.

Two other thoughts...

According to SAMHSA data, mj has the highest rate of teens seeking treatment for abuse. But this to me makes sense given the social context that long preceded any legalization efforts--one in which mj has long had easy access and is more socially acceptable, which is why mj has been called a gateway drug.

However, SAMHSA data also show that the trends in teen mj use have only very slightly increased over the past 15 years. There doesn't seem to be any clear uptick in teen use associated with legalization (probably because social acceptance long preceded legality).

 

Ashley Moody's opposition to recreational marijuana is the #1 reason I can truly say I've never voted for her and have been glad to vote for her opponents. I know it hasn't helped but it's good to know I haven't contributed to the problem.

They are trying to go against the will of the people and trying to go against legalizing something that should have never been illegal.

Again it continues to amaze me that abortion and drugs are the two hills that older boomer RINO Republicans have decided to die on and screw the Republican party over.

 

That is a great question. I honestly have no clue, but no doubt that number is significant.

 

Chappelle one of the best evah!

Def a concern. Juvenile courts tend heavily toward probation and/or treatment for drug offenses, so they approach drug use as an addiction issue even where use might not be addiction.

TBH, there is an upside to this approach, which is to tamp down on formal adjudication and to keep juveniles out of detention facilities where possible even if some don't need treatment.

Similar idea to adult drug courts.

 

Interesting that the arguments went better for the marijuana side than expected. (It's also interesting that John Bash argued the case for them. Our paths crossed when he was a U.S. Attorney in Texas.) Maybe SCOFL will prove my cynicism wrong.
Florida justices question state argument against recreational marijuana amendment

 

Funny because most of the Republicans I know would vote for it in a heartbeat. It's the few older ones that are still against it.

 

24. States have legalized recreational marijuana.

freaking Ohio is ahead of Florida